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Re: Well, I'd never have thought this ...

Post by thebish » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:53 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Prufrock wrote: I also think that given mud sticks in particular with these cases, that defendants should be granted anonymity too. I know it can sometimes lead to others coming forward, but I don't think that is a fair price.
In this day and age, Pru, what chance anonymity for anyone? The press, paparazzi or CCTV cameras will get you somewhere along the line. Even 1984 is almost thirty years in the past. :wink:
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Re: Well, I'd never have thought this ...

Post by Prufrock » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:58 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Prufrock wrote: I also think that given mud sticks in particular with these cases, that defendants should be granted anonymity too. I know it can sometimes lead to others coming forward, but I don't think that is a fair price.
In this day and age, Pru, what chance anonymity for anyone? The press, paparazzi or CCTV cameras will get you somewhere along the line. Even 1984 is almost thirty years in the past. :wink:

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Re: Well, I'd never have thought this ...

Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:29 am

Prufrock wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
Prufrock wrote: I also think that given mud sticks in particular with these cases, that defendants should be granted anonymity too. I know it can sometimes lead to others coming forward, but I don't think that is a fair price.
In this day and age, Pru, what chance anonymity for anyone? The press, paparazzi or CCTV cameras will get you somewhere along the line. Even 1984 is almost thirty years in the past. :wink:
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I really have no idea because the law has put a block on her identity. Someone will know.
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Re: Well, I'd never have thought this ...

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:36 am

TANGODANCER wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
Prufrock wrote: I also think that given mud sticks in particular with these cases, that defendants should be granted anonymity too. I know it can sometimes lead to others coming forward, but I don't think that is a fair price.
In this day and age, Pru, what chance anonymity for anyone? The press, paparazzi or CCTV cameras will get you somewhere along the line. Even 1984 is almost thirty years in the past. :wink:
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I really have no idea because the law has put a block on her identity. Someone will know.
2 guys tweeted it ... they are both now arrested.
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Re: Well, I'd never have thought this ...

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:11 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
Prufrock wrote: I also think that given mud sticks in particular with these cases, that defendants should be granted anonymity too. I know it can sometimes lead to others coming forward, but I don't think that is a fair price.
In this day and age, Pru, what chance anonymity for anyone? The press, paparazzi or CCTV cameras will get you somewhere along the line. Even 1984 is almost thirty years in the past. :wink:
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I really have no idea because the law has put a block on her identity. Someone will know.
Ergo - successful anonymity.
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:51 pm

Well all I can say is that it razzes my goat that somebody who may well be, and probably is, on the balance of probability based on the facts as far as I know them, A LIAR, can be as equally anonymous as those two utter cnuts who without a doubt murdered James Bulger, and yet a man who was accused of a heinous crime and found Not Guilty can, because his name is in the public arena, still have such mud thrown at him as 'well he might not be innocent' wink wink. FFS, the law, and some of its proponents are clearly ass like in this respect.
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:56 pm

Clearly the answer should be to grant, or remove, anonymity, in Toto. Much less pissin' about with people's lives whichever option is chosen.
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Post by Il Pirate » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:29 pm

can be as equally anonymous as those two utter cnuts who without a doubt murdered James Bulger



I think you'll find they were never granted anonimity.............................

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:05 pm

Il Pirate wrote:can be as equally anonymous as those two utter cnuts who without a doubt murdered James Bulger



I think you'll find they were never granted anonimity.............................
I beg to differ. They were given state sponsored new identities and the law says that those identities are anonymous and shall not be divulged...exactly.the same anonymity with equal rights under the law as we are talking about here.
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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:11 am

Prufrock wrote:The second is the legal position. It's a fundamental principle of the constitution of this country, and all civilised ones, that you are presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Is this true in Scotland, Pru? "Not proven" generally implies guilt and certainly does not imply innocence. Oh wait - you said civilized countries. Never mind. :wink:
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Post by Gary the Enfield » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:12 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Il Pirate wrote:can be as equally anonymous as those two utter cnuts who without a doubt murdered James Bulger



I think you'll find they were never granted anonimity.............................
I beg to differ. They were given state sponsored new identities and the law says that those identities are anonymous and shall not be divulged...exactly.the same anonymity with equal rights under the law as we are talking about here.

One of them is on his FOURTH new identity. The cvnt.

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Post by bobo the clown » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:25 pm

Gary the Enfield wrote:
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Il Pirate wrote:can be as equally anonymous as those two utter cnuts who without a doubt murdered James Bulger

I think you'll find they were never granted anonimity.............................
I beg to differ. They were given state sponsored new identities and the law says that those identities are anonymous and shall not be divulged...exactly.the same anonymity with equal rights under the law as we are talking about here.
One of them is on his FOURTH new identity. The cvnt.
The first 3 of those were Joey Barton !!
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Post by Beefheart » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:21 am

I only ever knew of him from the Led Zeppelin song 'Hats off', but Roy Harper appears to be the latest to be charged.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-he ... r-24955436" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Gary the Enfield » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:57 am

Beefheart wrote:I only ever knew of him from the Led Zeppelin song 'Hats off', but Roy Harper appears to be the latest to be charged.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-he ... r-24955436" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jesus fecking Christ is there anyone in the entertainment industry from the seventies who ISN'T a nonce?

Just reading about this guy's contribution to one of the best albums of all time (Wish you were here) only to find I'm glad I fecking WASN'T!!!!!!!

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:04 pm

A Priest, a rapist and a paedophile walk into a bar. So, he orders a drink................
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:30 pm

:shock:

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Post by mrkint » Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:32 pm

Been following the reporters in the court who were tweeting it. Genuinely felt sick in the stomach reading through it.

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Post by boltonboris » Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:13 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote::shock:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25108439" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
How is his name there for all to see, but 'Woman A' & 'Woman B' remain anonymous?
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Post by mrkint » Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:20 pm

naming the women would make it possible to identify the victim(s), and as the victims must remain anonymous i guess that's why they are too.

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Post by LeverEnd » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:28 pm

mrkint wrote:naming the women would make it possible to identify the victim(s), and as the victims must remain anonymous i guess that's why they are too.
Yes it's not for their protection but because of the staggering fact that they offered their own children for abuse, and their anonymity is protected. They really should be forcibly sterilised. On no account must they ever be able to conceive again.
What a horrendous piece of shit he is. Makes you wonder what the other band members knew/suspected.
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