Windies Cricket

[TANGODANCER]

Had to laugh at the Sun's outrage at us losing a cricket match. Sack the coach, get rid of .x.x etc. So we lost one, won one and drew one, pretty normal fare if you take away our God-given right to win everything. Trott's had his day, so why pick him? If we played them again today either side may win, that's life.

As for the Sun, such observant reporters that in their desire to be experts they can't even.tell a right hand from a left in a boxing match. Get on with it, the world hasn't stopped.

[Worthy4England]

Trott has now retired from Test cricket.

I don't agree with your "God given right" to win sentiment Tango - you would expect, more often than not, that Chelsea beat Hartlepool (just as you might have been surprised if Pacquaio had beaten Mayweather in a two horse race.) Part of the problem is, that the rankings tail the form by a couple of years. England were probably the number one team in the world 2 years before they hit the number one spot, and weren't the top team in the world for very long when they did hit the number one spot.

That said, West Indies cricket is in absolute disarray. It's not just about eleven v eleven, a good eleven should always beat a poor eleven. What it's shown us (unless something dramatic happens), is there's an eleven waiting round the corner for us who might just whitewash us again, but using your analogy the other way around, it should be two each and a draw, because in any given game all things are equal.

[Montreal Wanderer]

Trott has now retired from Test cricket.

I don't agree with your "God given right" to win sentiment Tango - you would expect, more often than not, that Chelsea beat Hartlepool (just as you might have been surprised if Pacquaio had beaten Mayweather in a two horse race.) Part of the problem is, that the rankings tail the form by a couple of years. England were probably the number one team in the world 2 years before they hit the number one spot, and weren't the top team in the world for very long when they did hit the number one spot.

That said, West Indies cricket is in absolute disarray. It's not just about eleven v eleven, a good eleven should always beat a poor eleven. What it's shown us (unless something dramatic happens), is there's an eleven waiting round the corner for us who might just whitewash us again, but using your analogy the other way around, it should be two each and a draw, because in any given game all things are equal.

I think Tango was talking about the Sun's 'God given right' sentiment, not his own.

[TANGODANCER]

Trott has now retired from Test cricket.

I don't agree with your "God given right" to win sentiment Tango - you would expect, more often than not, that Chelsea beat Hartlepool (just as you might have been surprised if Pacquaio had beaten Mayweather in a two horse race.) Part of the problem is, that the rankings tail the form by a couple of years. England were probably the number one team in the world 2 years before they hit the number one spot, and weren't the top team in the world for very long when they did hit the number one spot.

That said, West Indies cricket is in absolute disarray. It's not just about eleven v eleven, a good eleven should always beat a poor eleven. What it's shown us (unless something dramatic happens), is there's an eleven waiting round the corner for us who might just whitewash us again, but using your analogy the other way around, it should be two each and a draw, because in any given game all things are equal.

I think Tango was talking about the Sun's 'God given right' sentiment, not his own.

I was Monty.....

[Worthy4England]

I know. I was disagreeing with Tango, and suggesting some games you should think you're going to win. I understand the sentiment that when you cross the whitewash, it's 11 v 11. The doesn't equate to some sort of "equal" equation in many instances. We should have had enough in the locker to beat a West Indies in disarray.

[thebish]

I know. I was disagreeing with Tango, and suggesting some games you should think you're going to win. I understand the sentiment that when you cross the whitewash, it's 11 v 11. The doesn't equate to some sort of "equal" equation in many instances. We should have had enough in the locker to beat a West Indies in disarray.

indeed.. it is perfectly reasonable - even if it IS the SUN!!! - to have expected England to beat the Windies. Just because both have the same number of players does not mean that the chances of a win for either are 50-50.

now... time to bed Lyth in?? we've hardly left him that much bedding-in time before the ashes... some might say we should have given him the third test against the Windies as a start...

still - it'll be all change now Strauss is in the fold, won't it? errr....

[Worthy4England]

I'll lob this on here, rather than start a fresh thread, but what a fcking shambles the ECB have been over the last few weeks. In comes Colin Graves who gobbed off about the West Indies, before we drew with them (I happen to agree with the sentiment, but no point in publically encouraging them), then he seemed to sack Peter Moore's via the press, whilst the guy was out at a match and to cap it all, he clearly and publically offered KP a possible way back (which I know isn't an absolute promise), only to then appoint Brocket, who firmly shut the door. Oh and there's the 4 day / 105 overs per day tests.

I think we should have beaten the West Indies and don't think Brocket's a bad appointment necessarily, but I think that Graves is very rapidly becoming a complete liability.

What a shambles.

[thebish]

and - today - Pieterson gobs off at everyone and anyone on twitter - kinda proving the some of the very points that people make against him!

[LeverEnd]

and - today - Pieterson gobs off at everyone and anyone on twitter - kinda proving the some of the very points that people make against him!

True, but it's got to the point now where I actually think he's got a point. This is hard to admit, as he is the sportsman i most despise in the whole wide world.
That's how appalling the ECB are right now.

[thebish]

and - today - Pieterson gobs off at everyone and anyone on twitter - kinda proving the some of the very points that people make against him!

True, but it's got to the point now where I actually think he's got a point. This is hard to admit, as he is the sportsman i most despise in the whole wide world.
That's how appalling the ECB are right now.

don't limit yourself so! there is enough despisement to go around! despise them all!

[bobo the clown]

and - today - Pieterson gobs off at everyone and anyone on twitter - kinda proving the some of the very points that people make against him!

^^^ "this" a the kids say.

Pieterson is an go simply looking for somewhere to explode.

Catch-22 stuff this & he'd just proven how right Strauss was.

[Bruce Rioja]

and - today - Pieterson gobs off at everyone and anyone on twitter - kinda proving the some of the very points that people make against him!

^^^ "this" a th kids say.

Pieterson is an go simply looking for somewhere to explode.

Catch-22 stuff this & he'd just proven how right Strass was.

Yeah. Why the feck would we entertain someone that's just knocked 300? Maybe he get's to call the tune?

[Little Green Man]

and - today - Pieterson gobs off at everyone and anyone on twitter - kinda proving the some of the very points that people make against him!

^^^ "this" a th kids say.

Pieterson is an go simply looking for somewhere to explode.

Catch-22 stuff this & he'd just proven how right Strass was.

Why the feck would we entertain someone that's just knocked 300?

Perhaps because, to quote Andy Zaltzman, he's a Cricketer of Unbelievable Natural Talent.