The "I just don't get it thread".

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Re: The "I just don't get it thread".

Post by William the White » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:21 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:I'm for folk believing what they like. I expect the same privilege in return. I'm a Catholic and believe in the Bible. It says:

Genesis 1:27
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

I'll stick with that.
So, given that, what gender is God?

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Re: The "I just don't get it thread".

Post by William the White » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:25 pm

Bijou Bob wrote:Aaaaaaand now apparently it's LGBT....Q. Queer is no longer the verbal slur it one was and some people like to identify themselves as 'Queer'. Whether they have any more idea than me what it means is a complete mystery.
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Re: The "I just don't get it thread".

Post by bobo the clown » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:28 pm

William the White wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:I'm for folk believing what they like. I expect the same privilege in return. I'm a Catholic and believe in the Bible. It says:

Genesis 1:27
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

I'll stick with that.
So, given that, what gender is God?
"He created them" ... so go on. Take a wild stab Willy.
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Re: The "I just don't get it thread".

Post by William the White » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:29 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
William the White wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:I'm for folk believing what they like. I expect the same privilege in return. I'm a Catholic and believe in the Bible. It says:

Genesis 1:27
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

I'll stick with that.
So, given that, what gender is God?
"He created them" ... so go on. Take a wild stab Willy.
Well, on the information provided so far - looks like (s)he is both.

Did I get it right?

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Re: The "I just don't get it thread".

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:37 pm

:conf: So he created mankind in HIS own image...

Doesn't seem to be that difficult :-)

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Re: The "I just don't get it thread".

Post by thebish » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:50 pm

^ that sounds a little bit more like a god created in human image!!!

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Post by William the White » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:19 pm

Worthy4England wrote::conf: So he created mankind in HIS own image...

Doesn't seem to be that difficult :-)
My difficulty is that HE seems to have created both in his own image.

Gender bender!

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Re: The "I just don't get it thread".

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:24 pm

William the White wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:I'm for folk believing what they like. I expect the same privilege in return. I'm a Catholic and believe in the Bible. It says:

Genesis 1:27
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

I'll stick with that.
So, given that, what gender is God?
Well, see Will, God is the creator. Man/woman are not, so they need two seperate entities to come together to create life, ie man and woman. So God created the two seperate entities. As Creator no definition is needed for God, but we have to start somewhere so we do that with the Bible and all that has gone before to compile it. It says as I quoted, "i n his own image he created" What you choose to believe beyond that is also as I quoted. Me, I'm not clever enough to know.
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Re: The "I just don't get it thread".

Post by thebish » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:33 pm

TANGODANCER wrote: Well, see Will, God is the creator. Man/woman are not, so they need two seperate entities to come together to create life, ie man and woman. So God created the two seperate entities. As Creator no definition is needed for God, but we have to start somewhere so we do that with the Bible and all that has gone before to compile it. It says as I quoted, "i n his own image he created" What you choose to believe beyond that is also as I quoted. Me, I'm not clever enough to know.
hmmm... given that you say God doesn't need gender - why give God a gender? :conf:

as I said - giving God gender is creating God in human image - which is backwards to what you were claiming - that God created humans in God's image...

personally I don't think the word often translated as "image" has anything whatsoever to do with gender.

as for letting people believe what they like - I applaud your sentiment, that's great - except I wouldn't take lessons from the Catholic church in that approach to life! letting people believe what they like is NOT the catholic church's bag... 8)


(biblical language about God is fluid and varied - sometimes male, sometimes female - sometimes plural... I don't think it is faithful to the bible to insist on the maleness of God... nor does it really make sense...)

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Re: The "I just don't get it thread".

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:46 pm

^ I'm quite happy for you to believe you know more than the Pope in the same way you know more than David Cameron and Neil Lennon. :wink:
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Re: The "I just don't get it thread".

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:47 pm

William the White wrote:
Worthy4England wrote::conf: So he created mankind in HIS own image...

Doesn't seem to be that difficult :-)
My difficulty is that HE seems to have created both in his own image.

Gender bender!
I'm not convinced image and gender are the same thing. :-)

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Re: The "I just don't get it thread".

Post by William the White » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:31 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
William the White wrote:
Worthy4England wrote::conf: So he created mankind in HIS own image...

Doesn't seem to be that difficult :-)
My difficulty is that HE seems to have created both in his own image.

Gender bender!
I'm not convinced image and gender are the same thing. :-)
i think you are certainly correct on that.

but how does it support your contention that God is male?

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Re: The "I just don't get it thread".

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:20 pm

William the White wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
William the White wrote:
Worthy4England wrote::conf: So he created mankind in HIS own image...

Doesn't seem to be that difficult :-)
My difficulty is that HE seems to have created both in his own image.

Gender bender!
I'm not convinced image and gender are the same thing. :-)
i think you are certainly correct on that.

but how does it support your contention that God is male?
This is good - sign of a decent University education. :D

I'm not convinced I made a contention that God was male, I challenged your contention that he might not be from the text provided which I think gives many indications that God is male through use of words like he and his.

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Re: The "I just don't get it thread".

Post by William the White » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:56 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
William the White wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
William the White wrote:
Worthy4England wrote::conf: So he created mankind in HIS own image...

Doesn't seem to be that difficult :-)
My difficulty is that HE seems to have created both in his own image.

Gender bender!
I'm not convinced image and gender are the same thing. :-)
i think you are certainly correct on that.

but how does it support your contention that God is male?
This is good - sign of a decent University education. :D

I'm not convinced I made a contention that God was male, I challenged your contention that he might not be from the text provided which I think gives many indications that God is male through use of words like he and his.
Well, that's certainly strong evidence. But do elucidate further. When he made woman in his own image did he temporarily emasculate himself?

If not, how did he do it?

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Re: The "I just don't get it thread".

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:10 pm

I'm sure with your view of image abstraction, you'll have no problem if you set your mind to it! :mrgreen:

Two arms, two legs, head, not quite enough ribs, moobs, facial hair (think he was old enough to be post HRT), proclivity to steal apples (which seems to have formed the basis for current divorce legislation)...how much more should there be?

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Re: The "I just don't get it thread".

Post by thebish » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:55 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:^ I'm quite happy for you to believe you know more than the Pope in the same way you know more than David Cameron and Neil Lennon. :wink:
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Re: The "I just don't get it thread".

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:09 pm

Jeff Lynne's ELO. That'll be ELO then?! :conf:
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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:23 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:Jeff Lynne's ELO. That'll be ELO then?! :conf:
Has ELO been resurrected or summat?
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Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:27 pm

Yes. In a big way. I'm guessing other people have a stake in the simple use of ELO.
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Post by Harry Genshaw » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:58 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Yes. In a big way. I'm guessing other people have a stake in the simple use of ELO.
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