Brexit or Britin

[bobo the clown]

Maybe the vote cast should be diminished by a factor relating to your age. So, say, a 50 year old vote is only worth 50%, a 75 yr old's worth 25% etc.

That way the yoofs will get full value of their vote.

Thank God experience counts for nowt.

them owd feckers shouldn't get a vote - they've already had theirs - they voted to join!

Aye. The EEC. Not this feck in shambles.

[Worthy4England]

^^ You speak for yourself. I wasn't owd enough to vote in that one.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

^^ You speak for yourself. I wasn't owd enough to vote in that one.

In which case you're not an owd fxcker, merely a middle aged fxcker.

[thebish]

Maybe the vote cast should be diminished by a factor relating to your age. So, say, a 50 year old vote is only worth 50%, a 75 yr old's worth 25% etc.

That way the yoofs will get full value of their vote.

Thank God experience counts for nowt.

them owd feckers shouldn't get a vote - they've already had theirs - they voted to join!

Aye. The EEC. Not this feck in shambles.

us young 'uns can't be blamed if you old 'uns didn't think through the consequences of what you voted for - and now want to change your minds!!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Maybe the vote cast should be diminished by a factor relating to your age. So, say, a 50 year old vote is only worth 50%, a 75 yr old's worth 25% etc.

That way the yoofs will get full value of their vote.

Thank God experience counts for nowt.

them owd feckers shouldn't get a vote - they've already had theirs - they voted to join!

Aye. The EEC. Not this feck in shambles.

us young 'uns can't be blamed if you old 'uns didn't think through the consequences of what you voted for - and now want to change your minds!!

Us owd'uns couldn't foresee handing over the baton and all the Euro young'uns dropping it and then complaining it's banana shaped.

[thebish]

Maybe the vote cast should be diminished by a factor relating to your age. So, say, a 50 year old vote is only worth 50%, a 75 yr old's worth 25% etc.

That way the yoofs will get full value of their vote.

Thank God experience counts for nowt.

them owd feckers shouldn't get a vote - they've already had theirs - they voted to join!

Aye. The EEC. Not this feck in shambles.

us young 'uns can't be blamed if you old 'uns didn't think through the consequences of what you voted for - and now want to change your minds!!

Us owd'uns couldn't foresee handing over the baton and all the Euro young'uns dropping it and then complaining it's banana shaped.

Which kinda proves the argument that you old 'uns can't be trusted with complicated decisions! Leave it to us young 'uns!

[bobo the clown]

^^^ but we were young uns when we made that decision. Proving it should be left to us again.

.... &, apparently bish sees himself as a young Un. Lol lol lol

[thebish]

^^^ but we were young ins when we made that decision. Proving it should be left to us again.

.... &, apparently bish sees himself as a young Un. Lol lol lol

too young to have already used up my Common Market vote! and - errr... younger than thee!

also, Bobo - simply typing "Lol" lots of times doesn't make you young!!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

^^^ but we were young ins when we made that decision. Proving it should be left to us again.

.... &, apparently bish sees himself as a young Un. Lol lol lol

too young to have already used up my Common Market vote! and - errr... younger than thee!

Common Market! There's a blast from the past.

[TANGODANCER]

Common Market! There's a blast from the past.

Aye, wasn't it that place where fruit and veg had to be a correct size and weight and threw mountains of butter and stuff away despite folk starving?

[thebish]

Common Market! There's a blast from the past.

Aye, wasn't it that place where fruit and veg had to be a correct size and weight and threw mountains of butter and stuff away despite folk starving?

or - tesco, sainsbury, Asda, Lidl, Aldi, Morrisons!

Dave's reform package didn't seem to have any interest AT ALL in agricultural policy / fishery reform - or in any issues of social welfare beyond a thinly disguised/not disguised at all political posturing about immigrant benefits...

[Lost Leopard Spot]

double post. Fxcking phone.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

At least outside the EU we can set our own fisheries/agricultural/social welfare policies. I quite like the idea that in return for benefits welfare claimants must patrol the north sea or grade spuds.

[Bruce Rioja]

Common Market! There's a blast from the past.

Aye, wasn't it that place where fruit and veg had to be a correct size and weight and threw mountains of butter and stuff away despite folk starving?

or - tesco, sainsbury, Asda, Lidl, Aldi, Morrisons!

We, the consumers, drive that fecking ridiculous state of affairs.

[Prufrock]

Here's my prediction:

"In" starts with a massive poll lead. Over time, that narrows until shortly before the referendum when it looks neck and neck. There might even be a poll a few days before that claims "out" is slightly in the lead. Then "in" wins by about 10%.

See: every referendum ever. You need a 10% lead on average to win a referendum against the status quo. Currently "in" is 15% in front, 18% if you exclude"don't knows".

[bobo the clown]

Here's my prediction:

"In" starts with a massive poll lead. Over time, that narrows until shortly before the referendum when it looks neck and neck. There might even be a poll a few days before that claims "out" is slightly in the lead. Then "in" wins by about 10%.

See: every referendum ever. You need a 10% lead on average to win a referendum against the status quo. Currently "in" is 15% in front, 18% if you exclude"don't knows".

^^ I'd generally agree.

The indeterminable bit us "something happens" ... however irrelevant in the realms of things but something which can be blamed of "them foreign types".

A terrorist event, not even necessarily in the UK. A kick-off in Calais. A continuing & rising stream of migrant coming through Greece or the Balkans.

You are probably correct, but you're just not sure, are you ?

[Prufrock]

I'm not *sure*, of course not. Extremely confident though. I think it would take several of those sort of events and some.

I hate to say it, but there's almost no chance Cameron loses this IMO. It's a v complicated issue, one that lots of people know matters but won't have the inclination or time to follow completely (I'm v interested in politics and I'M bored of this already). And people trust Cameron. And those who don't are people who have already made their minds up anyway.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

I think there are a lot of people waiting to be convinced either way. We know there will be lots of fear from both sides and lots of it'll be reet. There wont be much decent information and come the day folk will still be on the fence. Most on the fence will probably go with the status quo.

I can only hope Farrage and Boris et al fcuk off never to be heard of again...

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I think there are a lot of people waiting to be convinced either way. We know there will be lots of fear from both sides and lots of it'll be reet. There wont be much decent information and come the day folk will still be on the fence. Most on the fence will probably go with the status quo.

I can only hope Farrage and Boris et al fcuk off never to be heard of again...

And that smarmarse Galloway. He makes me vomit. He's one of the reasons I might vote to stay in, just because he's in the exit camp.

[thebish]

I think there are a lot of people waiting to be convinced either way. We know there will be lots of fear from both sides and lots of it'll be reet. There wont be much decent information and come the day folk will still be on the fence. Most on the fence will probably go with the status quo.

I can only hope Farrage and Boris et al fcuk off never to be heard of again...

aye... we'll not know any more come June than we do now - we might as well vote tomorrow.