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Re: Gruntled
Yes! You're in.TANGODANCER wrote:I didn't study the post (in)tently enough.
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Re: Gruntled
I'm going for:
Discombobulated and combobulated
Discombobulated and combobulated
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Re: Gruntled
Then I must contest the word 'scrutable' which is indeed the opposite of inscrutable.Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Kind of...albeit the opening two were chosen precisely because without the prefix we are unsure whether it decreases or increases the value that the word with the prefix embodies.clapton is god wrote:"Am I disfigured?"
"No, you were never figured in the first place."
That kind of thing?
Thus when somebody is gruntled does this mean they are less then disgruntledor does it mean being opposite to being disgruntled, i.e if gruntled is to disgruntled is it like ecstatic is to happy or is it like happy is to sad?
We were looking for words that fit that formula.
So far I like Disturb and Turb, Discombobulate and Combobulate.
Then too there is gruntled.OED wrote:scrutable, adj.
Pronunciation:
/ˈskruːtəb(ə)l/
Frequency (in current use):
Etymology: As if < Latin *scrūtābilis, < scrūtārī : see scrutator n. Compare Italian ... (Show More)
That can be understood by scrutiny. Chiefly opposed to inscrutable.
c1604 Charlemagne (1938) i. 12 If ye thoughte of men were scrutable to man, & mongst men.
1718 G. Hickes & R. Nelson Mem. J. Kettlewell ii. xlviii. 153 Magnifying the Providence of God, which is by Mortals Scrutable.
1856 E. B. Browning Aurora Leigh iv. 146 Cognisant Of the less scrutable majesties.
1878 Life G. Combe I. ii. 23 Nobody conceived the cause of these phenomena to be scrutable
OED wrote:gruntled, adj.
Pronunciation:
/ˈɡrʌnt(ə)ld/
Frequency (in current use):
Etymology: Back-formation < disgruntled adj. at disgruntle v. Derivatives.
Pleased, satisfied, contented.
1938 P. G. Wodehouse Code of Woosters i. 9 He spoke with a certain what-is-it in his voice, and I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.
1962 ‘C. Rohan’ Delinquents 76 Come on, Brownie darling, be gruntled.
1966 New Statesman 11 Nov. 693/2 An action against a barrister for negligence..would open the door to every disgruntled client. Now gruntled clients are rare in the criminal courts.
1967 ‘E. McGirr’ Hearse with Horses i. 17 The Agency has a nice file of gruntled exes who have found their talents in a great variety of jobs.
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You're not have "gruntled" given your earliest citation is Wodehouse. By that reasoning they're all disqualified by dint of being mentioned in this thread.
In a world that has decided
That it's going to lose its mind
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That it's going to lose its mind
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Re: Gruntled
I accept gruntled was a recent coinage that others have copied - thus making it a word in current usage but only because disgruntled once stood alone. However scrutable has a long an honourable history as a word.Prufrock wrote:You're not have "gruntled" given your earliest citation is Wodehouse. By that reasoning they're all disqualified by dint of being mentioned in this thread.
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Re: Gruntled
What about 'appointed" ?
Has you appointed ever been other that dissed ?
Has you appointed ever been other that dissed ?
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
"I understand you are a very good footballer" ... "I try".
"I understand you are a very good footballer" ... "I try".
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plus I already explained the "gruntled - Wodehouse" connection many days ago... that was the spark for this thread... booooooooo!!Prufrock wrote:You're not have "gruntled" given your earliest citation is Wodehouse. By that reasoning they're all disqualified by dint of being mentioned in this thread.
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Fair enough. I shall strike inscrutable from the record.Montreal Wanderer wrote:I accept gruntled was a recent coinage that others have copied - thus making it a word in current usage but only because disgruntled once stood alone. However scrutable has a long an honourable history as a word.Prufrock wrote:You're not have "gruntled" given your earliest citation is Wodehouse. By that reasoning they're all disqualified by dint of being mentioned in this thread.
That still leaves:
Combobulated
Turned
I've just realised that both disturbed and perturbed lead back to turbed. Excellent!
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That works too, I think. Although appointed is a word, it doesn't have the same meaning/root as disappointment. So yeah, it joins the list.bobo the clown wrote:What about 'appointed" ?
Has you appointed ever been other that dissed ?
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Re: Gruntled
on a similar vein..
ageless
countless
peerless
the imagine +ve versions: ageful, countful and peerful don't exist...
dishevelled??
Corbyn looks decidedly dishevelled whereas Cameron is looking proudly hevelled??
ageless
countless
peerless
the imagine +ve versions: ageful, countful and peerful don't exist...
dishevelled??
Corbyn looks decidedly dishevelled whereas Cameron is looking proudly hevelled??
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I believe it originally would have had the opposite meaning. People were appointed to something and subsequently disappointed (fired). Naturally they were unhappy and the word took on a new meaning.Lost Leopard Spot wrote:That works too, I think. Although appointed is a word, it doesn't have the same meaning/root as disappointment. So yeah, it joins the list.bobo the clown wrote:What about 'appointed" ?
Has you appointed ever been other that dissed ?
I'll check the old OED
OED for its first definition of disappoint wrote: 1. trans. To undo the appointment of; to deprive of an appointment, office, or possession; to dispossess, deprive. Obs. (exc. as nonce-wd.)
[1489 Caxton tr. C. de Pisan Bk. Fayttes of Armes iii. v. 175 Thoo that faille theyre lorde in thys behalffe ought to be dyspoynted of the landes that they soo holde.]
1586 T. Bowes tr. P. de la Primaudaye French Acad. I. 617 A Monarch..hath power..to appoint or to disappoint the greatest officers.
1824 Byron Don Juan: Canto XVI lxxv. 101 He would keep it, Till duly disappointed or dismissed.
1870 C. H. Spurgeon Treasury of David I. Ps. xi. 6 God's Anointed is appointed, and shall not be disappointed.
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Well, that was the original meaning but now pretty obsolete so there is an argument to keep it. We don't want a ballistic Bobo around.Lost Leopard Spot wrote:^ oh all right, it's binned off.
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Nope, it's gone.Montreal Wanderer wrote:Well, that was the original meaning but now pretty obsolete so there is an argument to keep it. We don't want a ballistic Bobo around.Lost Leopard Spot wrote:^ oh all right, it's binned off.
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Re: Gruntled
Ok, what about... Supercalifragilisticexpealidocuos? If one's merely califragilisticexpealidocous is one in a good place, or is one basically in limbo?
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Re: Gruntled
Turbo, turbare is the Latin for to confuse. Disturbare is Latin for to throw into confusion (so essentially means the same). Perturbare is Latin for to derange, throw into confusion. So Turb certainly works. Discombobulated is an American humourous coinage (for which reason you may wish to chuck it).Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Fair enough. I shall strike inscrutable from the record.Montreal Wanderer wrote:I accept gruntled was a recent coinage that others have copied - thus making it a word in current usage but only because disgruntled once stood alone. However scrutable has a long an honourable history as a word.Prufrock wrote:You're not have "gruntled" given your earliest citation is Wodehouse. By that reasoning they're all disqualified by dint of being mentioned in this thread.
That still leaves:
Combobulated
Turned
I've just realised that both disturbed and perturbed lead back to turbed. Excellent!
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supercalifragilisticexpialidocious [sic] (you put an e after the p) is a nonsense word created by American songwriters - surely we are above that.Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Ok, what about... Supercalifragilisticexpealidocuos? If one's merely califragilisticexpealidocous is one in a good place, or is one basically in limbo?
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