Germany v Italy

warthog · Post by **warthog** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:42 pm

Enjoyable game this with Italy on top but Germany looking good on the break. Seeing the way both teams move the ball around, with not the hint of a long hoof, makes me realise what a poor side England are.

fanz · Post by **fanz** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:50 pm

Well said Warty and spot on, do you get much chance to see Bolton?

Gertie · Post by **Gertie** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:51 pm

That first half flew by, very entertaing......

Frankie Wanderer · Post by **Frankie Wanderer** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:08 pm

Gertie wrote:That first half flew by, very entertaing......

Very animated in " our house "

wonder why..........

keveh · Post by **keveh** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:22 pm

The ending to this match is awesome.

keveh · Post by **keveh** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:29 pm

And so were those goals.

warthog · Post by **warthog** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:33 pm

What a terrific advertisement for football. Two teams, fully committed, playing end to end football for 120 minutes. Two excellent goals to earn a deserved victory for Italy, but Germany come out with a huge amount of credit.

The game was played in good spirit too, with none of the oscar level rolling around. Huge kudos to the referee.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:33 pm

Del Pierro for Bolton anyone, or is he too old?

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:36 pm

warthog wrote:
The game was played in good spirit too, with none of the oscar level rolling around. Huge kudos to the referee.

Er, except Ballack getting a shoulder in his chest and going down poleaxed grabbing his face

fanz · Post by **fanz** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:38 pm

Absolutely magnificent, all those people who thought England had what it takes should now realise how far behind we actually are. Neither teams stars bottled it like our men, end to end fantastic football.

H. Pedersen · Post by **H. Pedersen** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:39 pm

The game was played in good spirit too, with none of the oscar level rolling around. Huge kudos to the referee.

I disagree, I definitely thought Italy were up to their old tricks.

In a way you have to say it's a shame to see Italy through to the final. A team so riddled with corruption that their champions are likely to be relegated to Serie C with three more teams facing relegation to Serie B in the final? What an embarrassment for the World Cup. I wish FIFA had taken a strong stand like the Tour de France organizers and ejected Italy from the tournament as soon as this broke. Sadly, Sepp Blatter would punch his own mother in the face if it meant the "big" teams moving through the Cup and making him more money.

Frankie Wanderer · Post by **Frankie Wanderer** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:40 pm

End to end stuff - a couple of good goals - but someone is

in our house .

plodder · Post by **plodder** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:15 pm

I enjoyed that, especially when Germany settled for the shoot-out and got undone by a superb goal.

Shame did anyone see Klinnsman cry?

warthog · Post by **warthog** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:31 pm

fanz wrote:Absolutely magnificent, all those people who thought England had what it takes should now realise how far behind we actually are. Neither teams stars bottled it like our men, end to end fantastic football.

Agreed. I've got to the point where I think it would be better if England went out of a tournament being hammered five or six nil. Then maybe the numpties who run the FA would realise that we simply don't produce enough English players of quality.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:34 pm

Argentina out, Germany out, Brazil out, England out. Oh dear chaps, it's not going to plan. Maybe we should start again.

mullayo · Post by **mullayo** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:40 am

Great game. Great advertisement for the game. Great goals - rubbish result. Materazzi dived too much but it was reffed really well. 3 cards and all the stars in the final from this semi. Germany have time on their side. Their backline will be back and in their prime. Midfield mainly. Podolski.

For me this tournament has been about attacking wingbacks. Today Lahm and Zamborotta, Grosso, Marquez, Moore, Chipperfield, Colocinni having the confidence to go forward and spark things. I think Italy would breeze by Portugal but France could challenge them.

Man of the match. Gattuso was always the second tackler then starter of the counter. Wasn't surprised he got cramps.

americantrotter · Post by **americantrotter** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:11 am

warthog wrote:
fanz wrote:Absolutely magnificent, all those people who thought England had what it takes should now realise how far behind we actually are. Neither teams stars bottled it like our men, end to end fantastic football.
Agreed. I've got to the point where I think it would be better if England went out of a tournament being hammered five or six nil. Then maybe the numpties who run the FA would realise that we simply don't produce enough English players of quality.

See this is where we go wrong. We HAVE players of quality. Sven brought us upa level, but was a shit long term coach. I have no doubt that a properly organized team with a few role players would see England through. In fact, this crap knockout round has convinced me we missed a big chance. we werent good enough in 02, maybe in 98 with a flash owen, but now It's all about the management.

Great game, but I believe in all my heart that a properly coached and SELECTED England would do well. The FA are our greatest nemesis.

FaninOz · Post by **FaninOz** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:19 am

warthog wrote: Then maybe the numpties who run the FA would realise that we simply don't produce enough English players of quality.

Are we surprised when out top league is full of foreign players. If we expect England to perform better then we need to be bringing on our younger players by giving them playing time in out top league, e.g. S Wright Phillips. As long as the Premiership allows Clubs to pack their teams with foreigners at the expense of young English players the England team will continue to go downhill.

I appreciate the argument that playing against some of the Worlds top players week in week out in the league is supposed to help our top players but it just doesn't. It has never helped the Spanish team or the England team, the only Country that appears to be uneffected by this fenomenon is Italy. But I don't think that they have as many foreigners playing in their league as they used to or nearly as many as we do in the Premiership.

Time for the FA to take some action I think.

Dr.Karl · Post by **Dr.Karl** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:24 am

How good is that Grosso? He has been my player of the tournament so far, has played well in every game I've seen Italy play in. Cracking game, great goals, the best match of the tournament by far.

Del Piero could be a possiblity if Juve are relagated, I read Cannovara was going to Fulham if the Old Lady got relagated!

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:24 am

FaninOz wrote:
warthog wrote: Then maybe the numpties who run the FA would realise that we simply don't produce enough English players of quality.
Are we surprised when out top league is full of foreign players. If we expect England to perform better then we need to be bringing on our younger players by giving them playing time in out top league, e.g. S Wright Phillips. As long as the Premiership allows Clubs to pack their teams with foreigners at the expense of young English players the England team will continue to go downhill.

I appreciate the argument that playing against some of the Worlds top players week in week out in the league is supposed to help our top players but it just doesn't. It has never helped the Spanish team or the England team, the only Country that appears to be uneffected by this fenomenon is Italy. But I don't think that they have as many foreigners playing in their league as they used to or nearly as many as we do in the Premiership.

Time for the FA to take some action I think.

Perhaps we should send them that inspirational Aussie immigration poster to use.

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