Middle East Crisis

[BWFC_Insane]

Sorry, but if you cannot see the mind set of middle class liberals at work here, you must be one of them!
Since when has making excuses up for 'nice boys' who feck off to commit atrocities all over the place worked?
I'll be totally honest here, if he was my lad I'd tell him in no uncertain terms to get his sorry ass back over here and we'd take it from there, inside I probably be ready to chin the bugger for the misery he'd caused the wife. Would I send him anything? absolutely not, in no circumstances, fecking youth want their arses wiping and someone picking up their mess until way into their late 30's these days.
He went, his choice, his problem, he's not a baby!

The natural response when one of your children is suffering or in trouble is to try and help them surely?

They may genuinely believe he is there for the reasons he has stated.

It isn't about excuses though, it is about explaining why not every piece of someone's thinking is automatically going to align with yours. They probably haven't stopped to consider ulterior motives at this stage. They are probably just trying to help their son out.

I think it is very easy to criticise them for what they've done. I find it a massive leap of underlying nonsense to try and extrapolate that to a middle class plot or to let ISIS win. Or whatever other nonsense you think it is.

[thebish]

^ yes... but don't forget that Hobes is coming from a world where

1) ISIS is not the problem - the problem is humanitarians
2) Climate change is not the problem - the problem is tree-huggers

[Hoboh]

Lets get this right......

1. America wants Assad gone so it can have Qatari (sunni) gas piped through Syria to Europe so as to decouple Europe from Russia.
2. America funds, finances and foments civil insurrection in Syria in pursuit of the aim.
3. Russia finally steps in and declares....NO
4. Said American terrorists are routed and will be effectively destroyed by the end of the month
5. Americans now want "peace"
6. Medvedev says "not on my watch"

So there we have it people.......the prospect of WW3 not for any great, good or altruistic high ideal but for a bunch of camel dealing tent dwellers.

The sooner Turkey and Saudi get involved and are DESTROYED the sooner we can all get on with our lives.

You heard it from the horses mouth.....Russia is not for turning....the bombing will stop when its finished and not a moment sooner.

If the MORONS in Washington want everything destroyed globally then provide air support for the Turks and Saudi's and pass the popcorn

When North America and Europe look like Aleppo.....what then?

"Oh....it wasn't meant to turn out this way" or something to that effect?

Asinine behaviour of the highest order.

Nice summary!

[Worthy4England]

Now I'm lost....

Oxfordshire parents try to send money for glasses to idiot son - attracts comment "The West is finished"

Impending WW3 - attracts the comment "Nice summary"

Should I be more worried about glasses or inter-continental ballistics?

[bobo the clown]

Now I'm lost....

Oxfordshire parents try to send money for glasses to idiot son - attracts comment "The West is finished"

Impending WW3 - attracts the comment "Nice summary"

Should I be more worried about glasses or inter-continental ballistics?

Without glasses the ICBM's would miss their target (still killing numberless people .... in their cases utterly oblivious of their impending doom).

So for sheer accuracy the glasses win.

[Hoboh]

This week’s truce was described as a “glimmer of hope” by Assad. However, the lull in fighting has seen widespread protests attended by thousands of people across the country. Demonstrators in parts of Aleppo, Damascus, Daraa and Homs called for the Syrian leader to step down.

They just don't know when to take time out do they?
Next moaning because the Russian resume bombing and more fleeing to Europe.
Just shut the fcuk up for a while and give some time to set up some peace and a settlement.

[Lord Kangana]

This week’s truce was described as a “glimmer of hope” by Assad. However, the lull in fighting has seen widespread protests attended by thousands of people across the country. Demonstrators in parts of Aleppo, Damascus, Daraa and Homs called for the Syrian leader to step down.

They just don't know when to take time out do they?
Next moaning because the Russian resume bombing and more fleeing to Europe.
Just shut the fcuk up for a while and give some time to set up some peace and a settlement.

Are you suggesting that weapons of war are a legitimate response to peaceful protest?

[thebish]

This week’s truce was described as a “glimmer of hope” by Assad. However, the lull in fighting has seen widespread protests attended by thousands of people across the country. Demonstrators in parts of Aleppo, Damascus, Daraa and Homs called for the Syrian leader to step down.

They just don't know when to take time out do they?
Next moaning because the Russian resume bombing and more fleeing to Europe.
Just shut the fcuk up for a while and give some time to set up some peace and a settlement.

eh?? the russians were bombing rebels hours after the cease-fire wa supposed to come into effect... they never stopped!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

This week’s truce was described as a “glimmer of hope” by Assad. However, the lull in fighting has seen widespread protests attended by thousands of people across the country. Demonstrators in parts of Aleppo, Damascus, Daraa and Homs called for the Syrian leader to step down.

They just don't know when to take time out do they?
Next moaning because the Russian resume bombing and more fleeing to Europe.
Just shut the fcuk up for a while and give some time to set up some peace and a settlement.

eh?? the russians were bombing rebels hours after the cease-fire wa supposed to come into effect... they never stopped!

The terms of the cease fire allowed continuous bombing of certain rebels, indeed it was encouraged. There just happens to be disagreement as to which side of nasty the Nusra Front resideth therein.

[thebish]

This week’s truce was described as a “glimmer of hope” by Assad. However, the lull in fighting has seen widespread protests attended by thousands of people across the country. Demonstrators in parts of Aleppo, Damascus, Daraa and Homs called for the Syrian leader to step down.

They just don't know when to take time out do they?
Next moaning because the Russian resume bombing and more fleeing to Europe.
Just shut the fcuk up for a while and give some time to set up some peace and a settlement.

eh?? the russians were bombing rebels hours after the cease-fire wa supposed to come into effect... they never stopped!

The terms of the cease fire allowed continuous bombing of certain rebels, indeed it was encouraged. There just happens to be disagreement as to which side of nasty the Nusra Front resideth therein.

indeed.. I was highlighting Hoboh's idea that "next" the Russians will RESUME bombing - to do that, they'd actually have to have stopped, no?

[Hoboh]

This week’s truce was described as a “glimmer of hope” by Assad. However, the lull in fighting has seen widespread protests attended by thousands of people across the country. Demonstrators in parts of Aleppo, Damascus, Daraa and Homs called for the Syrian leader to step down.

They just don't know when to take time out do they?
Next moaning because the Russian resume bombing and more fleeing to Europe.
Just shut the fcuk up for a while and give some time to set up some peace and a settlement.

eh?? the russians were bombing rebels hours after the cease-fire wa supposed to come into effect... they never stopped!

Oh really and you can prove that? they were all your 'good rebels' then?
Hardly any Russian combat planes flew in the first 24hrs and that was widely reported, where are the Yanks screaming about all these breeches? Of course it doesn't fit your Putin bad guy agenda does it?

And just where does it state these demo's were peaceful Mr Kanagana?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

This week’s truce was described as a “glimmer of hope” by Assad. However, the lull in fighting has seen widespread protests attended by thousands of people across the country. Demonstrators in parts of Aleppo, Damascus, Daraa and Homs called for the Syrian leader to step down.

They just don't know when to take time out do they?
Next moaning because the Russian resume bombing and more fleeing to Europe.
Just shut the fcuk up for a while and give some time to set up some peace and a settlement.

eh?? the russians were bombing rebels hours after the cease-fire wa supposed to come into effect... they never stopped!

The terms of the cease fire allowed continuous bombing of certain rebels, indeed it was encouraged. There just happens to be disagreement as to which side of nasty the Nusra Front resideth therein.

indeed.. I was highlighting Hoboh's idea that "next" the Russians will RESUME bombing - to do that, they'd actually have to have stopped, no?

I concede that...no doubt they never stopped.

[Lord Kangana]

This week’s truce was described as a “glimmer of hope” by Assad. However, the lull in fighting has seen widespread protests attended by thousands of people across the country. Demonstrators in parts of Aleppo, Damascus, Daraa and Homs called for the Syrian leader to step down.

They just don't know when to take time out do they?
Next moaning because the Russian resume bombing and more fleeing to Europe.
Just shut the fcuk up for a while and give some time to set up some peace and a settlement.

eh?? the russians were bombing rebels hours after the cease-fire wa supposed to come into effect... they never stopped!

Oh really and you can prove that? they were all your 'good rebels' then?
Hardly any Russian combat planes flew in the first 24hrs and that was widely reported, where are the Yanks screaming about all these breeches? Of course it doesn't fit your Putin bad guy agenda does it?

And just where does it state these demo's were peaceful Mr Kanagana?

Where does it state they weren't?

[Beefheart]

Do you really need an agenda to argue that Putin is a bad guy?

[Hoboh]

The protestor was referencing a controversial US decision to force the victorious Kurdish YPG forces to withdraw from the captured town of Manbij to the other side of the Euphrates river – a move aimed a placating Turkey, which views them as terrorists.

Fcuk Turkey, the two faced state terrorist nice people!

[Worthy4England]

The protestor was referencing a controversial US decision to force the victorious Kurdish YPG forces to withdraw from the captured town of Manbij to the other side of the Euphrates river – a move aimed a placating Turkey, which views them as terrorists.

Fcuk Turkey, the two faced state terrorist tw*ts!

They must be in the EU by now, surely...

[Hoboh]

The protestor was referencing a controversial US decision to force the victorious Kurdish YPG forces to withdraw from the captured town of Manbij to the other side of the Euphrates river – a move aimed a placating Turkey, which views them as terrorists.

Fcuk Turkey, the two faced state terrorist tw*ts!

They must be in the EU by now, surely...

Not yet, but last week their ground forces moved into Syria supposedly to fight ISIS but just happened to shell and engage Kurds!

[Worthy4England]

Shit. Syria's in the EU too?

[Bijou Bob]

This week’s truce was described as a “glimmer of hope” by Assad. However, the lull in fighting has seen widespread protests attended by thousands of people across the country. Demonstrators in parts of Aleppo, Damascus, Daraa and Homs called for the Syrian leader to step down.

They just don't know when to take time out do they?
Next moaning because the Russian resume bombing and more fleeing to Europe.
Just shut the fcuk up for a while and give some time to set up some peace and a settlement.

eh?? the russians were bombing rebels hours after the cease-fire wa supposed to come into effect... they never stopped!

Oh really and you can prove that? they were all your 'good rebels' then?
Hardly any Russian combat planes flew in the first 24hrs and that was widely reported, where are the Yanks screaming about all these breeches? Of course it doesn't fit your Putin bad guy agenda does it?

And just where does it state these demo's were peaceful Mr Kanagana?

I will forever read your name in a Japanese accent now. Brush on, brush off......

[Lord Kangana]

According to the leaflet I got before the referendum, so is Iraq. Why does our government hide these things from us?