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TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:29 pm

americantrotter wrote:Well add in that America think there are 2 accents. Cockney and Oasis.

Can never get over how Americans make "t's" sound like "d" and vowels like other vowels. As in "American Tradder"

americantrotter · Post by **americantrotter** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:50 pm

LOL it's a big country. Depends on the accent, we have a lot of them too, although much more of a problem in the northeast. I personally love the Boston accent, but many find it annoying.

Hadnt noticed the t thing, but I definitely know we destroy our vowels like you lot do h's that start a word!

Bwfc in the bloodline · Post by **Bwfc in the bloodline** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:53 pm

americantrotter wrote:LOL it's a big country. Depends on the accent, we have a lot of them too, although much more of a problem in the northeast. I personally love the Boston accent, but many find it annoying.

Hadnt noticed the t thing, but I definitely know we destroy our vowels like you lot do h's that start a word!

The Bolton accent doesnt include h at the beggining of words.

alliwell
amburger
ide and seek.
ave a nice day
ello

americantrotter · Post by **americantrotter** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:57 pm

That would be my point.

Bertie · Post by **Bertie** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:53 pm

americantrotter wrote:LOL it's a big country. Depends on the accent, we have a lot of them too, although much more of a problem in the northeast. I personally love the Boston accent, but many find it annoying.

Hadnt noticed the t thing, but I definitely know we destroy our vowels like you lot do h's that start a word!

Like

urbs.

Urbal Essence.

It's Herbs you transatlantic tw**s

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:41 am

it's worse than that though Bertie. I don't have a problem with the various US accents apart from on those two words. It's the complete corruption on those two words in to...

urrbs (you have to stretch out the vowel sound)

and urrbull (don't forget the extranious emphasis on the 'L')

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:40 am

communistworkethic wrote:it's worse than that though Bertie. I don't have a problem with the various US accents apart from on those two words. It's the complete corruption on those two words in to...

urrbs (you have to stretch out the vowel sound)

and urrbull (don't forget the extranious emphasis on the 'L')

Sort of, A la Tess Daley. "Over to the judjizz to vote for the winning cupulzz"

americantrotter · Post by **americantrotter** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:55 pm

Bolton folks criticizing a silent H? LOL My father couldnt say Home Run for nearly 20 years here!

I thought the H was silent in herbs anyways?

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:01 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
communistworkethic wrote:it's worse than that though Bertie. I don't have a problem with the various US accents apart from on those two words. It's the complete corruption on those two words in to...

urrbs (you have to stretch out the vowel sound)

and urrbull (don't forget the extranious emphasis on the 'L')
Sort of, A la Tess Daley. "Over to the judjizz to vote for the winning cupulzz"

but she's from Derbyshire

enfieldwhite · Post by **enfieldwhite** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:06 pm

americantrotter wrote:Bolton folks criticizing a silent H? LOL My father couldnt say Home Run for nearly 20 years here!

I thought the H was silent in herbs anyways?

It is.

enfieldwhite · Post by **enfieldwhite** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:07 pm

communistworkethic wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
communistworkethic wrote:it's worse than that though Bertie. I don't have a problem with the various US accents apart from on those two words. It's the complete corruption on those two words in to...

urrbs (you have to stretch out the vowel sound)

and urrbull (don't forget the extranious emphasis on the 'L')
Sort of, A la Tess Daley. "Over to the judjizz to vote for the winning cupulzz"
but she's from Derbyshire

I believe she's from Stockport

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:58 pm

enfieldwhite wrote:
americantrotter wrote:Bolton folks criticizing a silent H? LOL My father couldnt say Home Run for nearly 20 years here!

I thought the H was silent in herbs anyways?
It is.

not in english

americantrotter · Post by **americantrotter** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:02 pm

Dictionary.com says

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
herb  /urb or, especially Brit., herb/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[urb or, especially Brit., hurb] –noun

There you are. In the US it has a silent H. Apparently in Britain it is not silent. Case closed.

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:03 pm

that's because you don't speak English.

We maintain to our hatred of the American pronunciation.

americantrotter · Post by **americantrotter** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:06 pm

All well and good. Feel free to despise the nation (I know you do) All I was saying is that the Americans grew up pronouncing it the way they were taught. (Fair enough you think it's wrong)

Once again though, the Irony of anyone from Bolton calling someone out an a silent H is incredible.

Most times I cannot abide the bastardization myself, but that's the way it goes for an English born American citizen.

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:08 pm

americantrotter wrote:All well and good. Feel free to despise the nation (I know you do) All I was saying is that the Americans grew up pronouncing it the way they were taught. (Fair enough you think it's wrong)

Once again though, the Irony of anyone from Bolton calling someone out an a silent H is incredible.

Most times I cannot abide the bastardization myself, but that's the way it goes for an English born American citizen.

good to see the hypocrisy of your own stereotype there

americantrotter · Post by **americantrotter** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:12 pm

Please spell out my hypocrisy that I am too stupid to find myself.

Boltonians do drop the H often correct? Maybe not all, but quite a lot.

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:22 pm

americantrotter wrote:

Please spell out my hypocrisy that I am too stupid to find myself.

Boltonians do drop the H often correct? Maybe not all, but quite a lot.

it's your generalisation, I'm boltonian I have an accent that makes me immediately recognisable to my contacts across the UK over the phone, I don't drop my hs.

americantrotter · Post by **americantrotter** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:34 pm

For the record, I love the Bolton accent. I also understand that it doesnt happen with everyone. My mother for instance. However it is a recognized part of the Bolton accent. It is still ironic whether you do it or not, that a Boltonian would call anyone out for a silent H.

I love Bolton, I love England, and in no way have I said anything in this thread in malice.

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:25 pm

americantrotter wrote:Dictionary.com says

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1)
herb  /urb or, especially Brit., herb/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[urb or, especially Brit., hurb] –noun

There you are. In the US it has a silent H. Apparently in Britain it is not silent. Case closed.

Certain words take an aspirate but herb is not one of them in England - it is in America and, even after 43 years, it still sounds offensive to my ear. The aspirate is different from a dropped 'h' found in certain dialects, especially cockney, which is simply an error. And there are my two cents.

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