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The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 01, 2017 12:59 pm

Shall we try and keep these tidily in one place? I think so. ;)

So, the first rumour out' the mill is this chap from Aberdeen who's apparently available on a freebie, McGinn, who Ally Morrison informs is a winger.

Daily Express are running this;

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football ... ews-Gossip

According to Wiki he's scored 58 in 175 whilst at Pittodrie, which is nice.

Fleetwood will also be in for him if the get promoted via the play-offs
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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon May 01, 2017 1:14 pm

I hope this isn't going to turn into a Scottish transfer thread. You're responsible my wine supping friend :D

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Post by Nicko58 » Mon May 01, 2017 1:15 pm

Sammy Ameobi will be a free agent when the transfer window opens. I haven't seen it reported anywhere that we'd actually make a move for him but, given his previous history with us, I wouldn't be shocked if we did. Is he good enough to have a similar impact at a higher level?
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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 01, 2017 1:19 pm

Nicko58 wrote:
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Sammy Ameobi will be a free agent when the transfer window opens. I haven't seen it reported anywhere that we'd actually make a move for him but, given his previous history with us, I wouldn't be shocked if we did. Is he good enough to have a similar impact at a higher level?
I always got the impression with Ameobi that defenders couldn't work out what he was about to do because he didn't know himself. Worked though :)

Has he actually been playing since he went back, do we know?
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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 01, 2017 1:20 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
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I hope this isn't going to turn into a Scottish transfer thread. You're responsible my wine supping friend :D
Haha. I'm sure there'll be a bit of that in it. :D
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 01, 2017 2:28 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
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Has (Ameobi) actually been playing since he went back, do we know?
57 minutes over four sub cameos (26, 24, 6 and 1 minute long). Two selections as unused subs. One minute on the pitch since Feb 4th. 17 times he wasn't in the squad at all.

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Post by Peter Thompson » Mon May 01, 2017 2:36 pm

IMO in the championship we need players better than Ameobi, I'd be disappointed if we went back in for him.

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Peter Thompson wrote:
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IMO in the championship we need players better than Ameobi, I'd be disappointed if we went back in for him.
Maybe we do need better players than Ameobi but I wouldn't rule signing him out as he's a proven commodity under Parkinson and we know he can fit in well with the squad. In fact I'm quite keen on him being the first player signed which should let players coming on loan the belief that if they do well they will be brought on, which in previous seasons wasn't the case, see Jutkiewicz for example.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 01, 2017 2:47 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Mon May 01, 2017 2:28 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
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Has (Ameobi) actually been playing since he went back, do we know?
57 minutes over four sub cameos (26, 24, 6 and 1 minute long). Two selections as unused subs. One minute on the pitch since Feb 4th. 17 times he wasn't in the squad at all.
Cheers DSB. So that went well then :D
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 01, 2017 2:50 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:
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IMO in the championship we need players better than Ameobi, I'd be disappointed if we went back in for him.
See, I've also been thinking that it might be worth putting in a cheeky bid to bring Chungy back on loan as I don't see him turning out for Palace very often.
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Post by TonyDomingos » Mon May 01, 2017 2:50 pm

Ambitious thread this, given we're under a transfer embargo. :D
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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 01, 2017 2:52 pm

TonyDomingos wrote:
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Ambitious thread this, given we're under a transfer embargo. :D
I couldn't fit 'loanees, freebies, the unloved and the unwanted' all in :D
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 01, 2017 3:11 pm

Even when (if?) the embargo's lifted, we'll still have a small budget for the division; bigger than Burton, but dwarfed by most. In 2015/16 all Champo clubs bar Wolves reported a loss, many of them eye watering. I really don't want to get drawn back into that madness; it nearly killed my club. For that reason I'd rather be looking at freebies from lower down the food chain - thwarted tier-three promotion candidates who might step up, blameless tier-two relegation sufferers to good to drop - rather than big-waged bystanders at profligate Premier wannabes.

None of which relates directly to Ameobi or indeed anyone else. Just to say that unless Ken finds a bankroller (which, as we know, has risks) I wouldn't be surprised if our business is almost exclusively freebies and loanees... and also that precisely who they are will depend not so much on who they are as on how much they want - to fit within a much stricter wage scale, to increase the self-sufficiency than Ken has preached since the moment he bought in.

And a lot of that wage info will never be public knowledge, but guesswork; if we don't sign the player YOU want, maybe his wage requests were too much. For instance, I can't imagine Allardyce having the largesse to say "Chungy's on £30k a week but I tell you what, you can loan him for £5k and we'll pay the rest."

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 01, 2017 3:36 pm

Ameobi would be good. I think he would do well here with Parky in charge and a supportive atmosphere. Was never going to get a look in under Benitez who wanted rid of him. He'd have been back here if Ken had the money at the time.

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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Nicko58 » Mon May 01, 2017 3:41 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:
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IMO in the championship we need players better than Ameobi, I'd be disappointed if we went back in for him.

It depends on what your expectations are. In my view, the gulf in quality between the top of League One and the bottom of the Championship is even wider than the one between the top of the Championship and the bottom of the Premier League. Without significant investment from an outside backer, we're probably going to be battling it out with the teams in the bottom third of the league. Ameobi could be both a realistic target (he'll be available on a free and might just fancy the move) and of some use to us at that level.
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Post by plymouth wanderer » Mon May 01, 2017 4:05 pm

I'd be tempted to not feck around to much with the core! I'd sign Alf,Sammy and Karcan like a shot! try and tie down spearing,wheats and sparky (latter strickly pay as you play) and go from there! another target man is a must! juke?
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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon May 01, 2017 4:07 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Mon May 01, 2017 2:52 pm
TonyDomingos wrote:
Mon May 01, 2017 2:50 pm
Ambitious thread this, given we're under a transfer embargo. :D
I couldn't fit 'loanees, freebies, the unloved and the unwanted' all in :D
I think he means you Tony :lol:

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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 01, 2017 4:10 pm

plymouth wanderer wrote:
Mon May 01, 2017 4:05 pm
I'd be tempted to not feck around to much with the core! I'd sign Alf,Sammy and Karcan like a shot! try and tie down spearing,wheats and sparky (latter strickly pay as you play) and go from there! another target man is a must! juke?
Feel we've probably moved past Juke, and he would be too expensive.

Cannot understand any logic at all for signing Mark Davies on any basis. Doubt that lad will be playing any football at a meaningful level for any extended period.

Alf, Sammy and Karacan would be good. First signing should be Andy Taylor. Superb player. Then Wheater and the rest.

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Post by Peter Thompson » Mon May 01, 2017 4:17 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon May 01, 2017 4:10 pm
plymouth wanderer wrote:
Mon May 01, 2017 4:05 pm
I'd be tempted to not feck around to much with the core! I'd sign Alf,Sammy and Karcan like a shot! try and tie down spearing,wheats and sparky (latter strickly pay as you play) and go from there! another target man is a must! juke?
Feel we've probably moved past Juke, and he would be too expensive.

Cannot understand any logic at all for signing Mark Davies on any basis. Doubt that lad will be playing any football at a meaningful level for any extended period.

Alf, Sammy and Karacan would be good. First signing should be Andy Taylor. Superb player. Then Wheater and the rest.
Agree with signing Taylor, Wheater, Karacan & ALF just don't agree with Ameobi....

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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 01, 2017 4:19 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon May 01, 2017 4:10 pm

Alf, Sammy and Karacan would be good. First signing should be Andy Taylor. Superb player. Then Wheater and the rest.
And on this we're in complete agreement. Not sure Taylor's really received the credit he deserves. As you say - a superb player for us this season. Seems to like playing for us as well.

I note that his contact at Wigan's up next month so that fits the criteria also.

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