The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Nicko58 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:21 am

Nixon is reporting that we've made a big offer to Jason Lowe. He's also reported the thing about Turner, who he describes as a 'future number one for club and country'.
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Post by Worthy4England » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:32 am

I'm guessing I must've seen Lowe a few times. Can't actually recall him...

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Post by Billbob » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:08 pm

Whilst googling jason lowe wages came up, in same column jay spearing was on 29,000 a week at Blackburn. Is that how much jay was on at Bolton?

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:18 pm

I'd sell turner if a few million quid came in. Yes he has huge potential. Yes it is galling to sell our youngsters.

But given where we are it is about short termism. Selling him could help us move out of embargo. It also presumably gets the wolves off the backs. End of the day I don't believe Turner will play this season. Certainly not much. Few million for a lad who will spend his time in the u23's...no brainer.

Yes in 5 years he could be worth 50M. But he won't reach that value if he stays with us anyway.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:43 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:18 pm
I'd sell turner if a few million quid came in. Yes he has huge potential. Yes it is galling to sell our youngsters.

But given where we are it is about short termism. Selling him could help us move out of embargo. It also presumably gets the wolves off the backs. End of the day I don't believe Turner will play this season. Certainly not much. Few million for a lad who will spend his time in the u23's...no brainer.

Yes in 5 years he could be worth 50M. But he won't reach that value if he stays with us anyway.
If we chucked him in the firsts for a game in the Carbuncle Trophy, would that enhance his value? It's just that I noticed a comment about clubs being keen to sign him before he's had a first team game.
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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Jugs » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:05 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:18 pm
I'd sell turner if a few million quid came in. Yes he has huge potential. Yes it is galling to sell our youngsters.

But given where we are it is about short termism. Selling him could help us move out of embargo. It also presumably gets the wolves off the backs. End of the day I don't believe Turner will play this season. Certainly not much. Few million for a lad who will spend his time in the u23's...no brainer.

Yes in 5 years he could be worth 50M. But he won't reach that value if he stays with us anyway.
You really reckon we'll get a few million?

We only got a bit of change for Holding and Clough ...

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:20 pm

Jugs wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:05 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:18 pm
I'd sell turner if a few million quid came in. Yes he has huge potential. Yes it is galling to sell our youngsters.

But given where we are it is about short termism. Selling him could help us move out of embargo. It also presumably gets the wolves off the backs. End of the day I don't believe Turner will play this season. Certainly not much. Few million for a lad who will spend his time in the u23's...no brainer.

Yes in 5 years he could be worth 50M. But he won't reach that value if he stays with us anyway.
You really reckon we'll get a few million?

We only got a bit of change for Holding and Clough ...
Dunno. If a few want him....the fees up there are mental....however anyone with half a brain will realise we are skint.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:05 pm

Iles: "Finally getting somewhere on Jason Lowe to Bolton story - definitely interest. Should know later in week if terms can be agreed."

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Post by Harry Genshaw » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:25 pm

Sell Turner and hopefully get enough to cover or cancel Amos''s contract. Lowe on a free and a significant saving on Spearings wages That'd be more good business imo
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:57 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:25 pm
Sell Turner and hopefully get enough to cover or cancel Amos''s contract.
I know what you mean but it would be really annoying if the proceeds from selling a great prospect were merely used to cover the cost of a bad decision.

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Post by Dr Hotdog » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:16 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:57 pm
Harry Genshaw wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:25 pm
Sell Turner and hopefully get enough to cover or cancel Amos''s contract.
I know what you mean but it would be really annoying if the proceeds from selling a great prospect were merely used to cover the cost of a bad decision.
Not sure 'really annoying' would suffice tbh....!

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:06 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:57 pm
Harry Genshaw wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:25 pm
Sell Turner and hopefully get enough to cover or cancel Amos''s contract.
I know what you mean but it would be really annoying if the proceeds from selling a great prospect were merely used to cover the cost of a bad decision.
True, but ultimately pragmatic.
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Post by Billbob » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:00 pm

Looks like Man United have bought a 18 year goalkeeper from Leeds theo richardson, so jake might be staying after all.

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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:57 pm

Goes from bad to worse. We are down if Ken can't sweet talk the league. We are as Parky has said 4 players short. We won't get anyone good enough to even sit on a championship bench under these rules. Loans will effectively be only half a season. And then we will be sunk. In January there will be no free transfers.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... alary_cap/

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Post by Peter Thompson » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:17 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:57 pm
Goes from bad to worse. We are down if Ken can't sweet talk the league. We are as Parky has said 4 players short. We won't get anyone good enough to even sit on a championship bench under these rules. Loans will effectively be only half a season. And then we will be sunk. In January there will be no free transfers.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... alary_cap/
One man to blame here - Dean Holdsworth....

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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:44 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:17 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:57 pm
Goes from bad to worse. We are down if Ken can't sweet talk the league. We are as Parky has said 4 players short. We won't get anyone good enough to even sit on a championship bench under these rules. Loans will effectively be only half a season. And then we will be sunk. In January there will be no free transfers.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... alary_cap/
One man to blame here - Dean Holdsworth....
Many more than that let's be honest. Previous regime massively culpable. And Ken has delivered on promise of lifting embargo and he's had enough time.

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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Peter Thompson » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:52 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:44 pm
Peter Thompson wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:17 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:57 pm
Goes from bad to worse. We are down if Ken can't sweet talk the league. We are as Parky has said 4 players short. We won't get anyone good enough to even sit on a championship bench under these rules. Loans will effectively be only half a season. And then we will be sunk. In January there will be no free transfers.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... alary_cap/
One man to blame here - Dean Holdsworth....
Many more than that let's be honest. Previous regime massively culpable. And Ken has delivered on promise of lifting embargo and he's had enough time.
How can he lKen) get the embargo lifted without Holdsworth sorting out the Blumarble loan

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:58 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:52 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:44 pm
Peter Thompson wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:17 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:57 pm
Goes from bad to worse. We are down if Ken can't sweet talk the league. We are as Parky has said 4 players short. We won't get anyone good enough to even sit on a championship bench under these rules. Loans will effectively be only half a season. And then we will be sunk. In January there will be no free transfers.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... alary_cap/
One man to blame here - Dean Holdsworth....
Many more than that let's be honest. Previous regime massively culpable. And Ken has delivered on promise of lifting embargo and he's had enough time.
How can he lKen) get the embargo lifted without Holdsworth sorting out the Blumarble loan
Well it's tricky, though the only way it gets sorted is if Ken pays it. He didn't have to fall out with Deano and try to force him out.

I agree Ken is in a tough spot. But he's partially culpable. Not the main culprit by any means.

But ironically the only person who can now sort this out.

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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by bristol_Wanderer3 » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:36 pm

Pretty ridiculous of the league to change the rules so drastically midway through a TW. Whilst the league are entitled to make the rules unattractive for clubs to be in an embargo, they should at least allow the clubs to operate with some clarity by having the same rules throughout a TW.

If we are to be stuck with these rules, then we are in trouble. The squad is already weak for the Championship imo, but now we can't sign any player on Championship wages, and are effectively looking for L1 free transfers, that haven't already been snapped up, i.e. not the best L1 free transfers. We'd better sign Bruce, and it looks unlikely that Reece Burke, or Josh Cullen will now be able to be signed, and if so for a maximum of 6 months. We somehow need to find a cheap left back/left wing back, defensive midfielder and big striker.

EDIT - Ken seems to be denying all knowledge???

https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2017/july/a ... an-260717/
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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:38 pm

bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:36 pm
Pretty ridiculous of the league to change the rules so drastically midway through a TW. Whilst the league are entitled to make the rules unattractive for clubs to be in an embargo, they should at least allow the clubs to operate with some clarity by having the same rules throughout a TW.

If we are to be stuck with these rules, then we are in trouble. The squad is already weak for the Championship imo, but now we can't sign any player on Championship wages, and are effectively looking for L1 free transfers, that haven't already been snapped up, i.e. not the best L1 free transfers. We'd better sign Bruce, and it looks unlikely that Reece Burke, or Josh Cullen will now be able to be signed, and if so for a maximum of 6 months. We somehow need to find a cheap left back/left wing back, defensive midfielder and big striker.
We should probably save our money. We might need it. Signing those sorts of players won't make any difference.

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