MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
I'll stick in an internet pint you're wrong on that.
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
Like every good football fan I forgot the league cup was a thing.Lost Leopard Spot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:50 pmI'm confused by this, what's Tuesday got to do with our position after next Saturday's matches?GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:42 pmIf we do okay on Tuesday we could well be higher. Leeds have destroyed two promotion hopefuls (Stoke and Derby), but those sides tried to play out from the back and got caught by the press time and again. They also both got hit on the counter over and over.
Leeds have a ton of energy and really high work rate, but they're built to press sides that need possession. We don't give a flying wottsit about possession and their centre backs may struggle against Magennis' power. They're playing Berardi and Cooper at centre back, so they can play out as a passing side - but the Swiss lad is 5'10" and Cooper is just 6', as I recall. If Magennis can keep his energy levels up he'll have fun there.
I'll be going. Should be interesting.
*edit* I'm a moron, it's a cup game.
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
Lost Leopard Spot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:53 pmI'll stick in an internet pint you're wrong on that.
Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
I don't know if this has been covered anywhere, but has it been disclosed how bad Ameobi's injury is?
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
Nobody has said anything. He was there Saturday and walking around with no assistance or aids so I assume that rules out the worst possibilities. Suspect from how he landed he jarred his hip/lower back and it won't be too long.
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
Regardless of the circumstances, it was a good point - And a point, we scarcely deserved.
4 points from these 2 games is an excellent return, but we clearly missed Ameobi's quality - Magennis is a big, hard-working lad, but the ball did not stick at all and we needed a second outball, which Ameobi offers.
4 points from these 2 games is an excellent return, but we clearly missed Ameobi's quality - Magennis is a big, hard-working lad, but the ball did not stick at all and we needed a second outball, which Ameobi offers.
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
Yes. And ultimately Wildschut.boltonboris wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:25 amRegardless of the circumstances, it was a good point - And a point, we scarcely deserved.
4 points from these 2 games is an excellent return, but we clearly missed Ameobi's quality - Magennis is a big, hard-working lad, but the ball did not stick at all and we needed a second outball, which Ameobi offers.
We've a conundrum in that we rely on Vela's workrate, but that lad has no quality on the ball whatsoever. Not sure how we solve that. His running in that role is so crucial to how we play but his end product is non-existent.
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
I was excited to see Widschutt come on and then withing 5 minutes, he'd kicked one out of play, then just watched their full-back run 30 yards, past him and didn't move a muscle. That has to stopBWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:27 amYes. And ultimately Wildschut.boltonboris wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:25 amRegardless of the circumstances, it was a good point - And a point, we scarcely deserved.
4 points from these 2 games is an excellent return, but we clearly missed Ameobi's quality - Magennis is a big, hard-working lad, but the ball did not stick at all and we needed a second outball, which Ameobi offers.
We've a conundrum in that we rely on Vela's workrate, but that lad has no quality on the ball whatsoever. Not sure how we solve that. His running in that role is so crucial to how we play but his end product is non-existent.
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
This was what was said about him by his previous clubs' fans. Amazing when he fancies it, but usually a passenger. PP will have known this going in and it's his job to get the lad going.boltonboris wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:29 amI was excited to see Widschutt come on and then withing 5 minutes, he'd kicked one out of play, then just watched their full-back run 30 yards, past him and didn't move a muscle. That has to stop
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
Little harsh. Thought he worked hard after coming on, acknowledging that isn't his game.boltonboris wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:29 amI was excited to see Widschutt come on and then withing 5 minutes, he'd kicked one out of play, then just watched their full-back run 30 yards, past him and didn't move a muscle. That has to stopBWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:27 amYes. And ultimately Wildschut.boltonboris wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:25 amRegardless of the circumstances, it was a good point - And a point, we scarcely deserved.
4 points from these 2 games is an excellent return, but we clearly missed Ameobi's quality - Magennis is a big, hard-working lad, but the ball did not stick at all and we needed a second outball, which Ameobi offers.
We've a conundrum in that we rely on Vela's workrate, but that lad has no quality on the ball whatsoever. Not sure how we solve that. His running in that role is so crucial to how we play but his end product is non-existent.
Didn't have a chance to affect the game going forwards which was a shame. Sounds like one who needs to get flying - hopefully we can get him there.
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
Are we assuming he's not yet fully up to speed with his fitness? He's a big lad and it can take a while.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:35 amDidn't have a chance to affect the game going forwards which was a shame. Sounds like one who needs to get flying - hopefully we can get him there.
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
I think that he had a full pre season with Norwich, he played on their tour to Germany
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
Didn't play much and hasn't played all that much for a while. Looks like one to me who it will take time to get confidence and form going. Reckon when he's flying he's unstoppable, but takes time to rebuild him to get there.Peter Thompson wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:40 amI think that he had a full pre season with Norwich, he played on their tour to Germany
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
I think if anyone can get him there, it's Parkinson
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
I still haven't figured out how it is possible to be built like Wildschut and be that quick!
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Vela's reached his limit. He's not good enough. We need a CM who can drive us forward, pick passes and have some conviction in his shooting - like Frandsen. I thought Vela would be all that but he isn't, and probably won't be.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:27 amYes. And ultimately Wildschut.boltonboris wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:25 amRegardless of the circumstances, it was a good point - And a point, we scarcely deserved.
4 points from these 2 games is an excellent return, but we clearly missed Ameobi's quality - Magennis is a big, hard-working lad, but the ball did not stick at all and we needed a second outball, which Ameobi offers.
We've a conundrum in that we rely on Vela's workrate, but that lad has no quality on the ball whatsoever. Not sure how we solve that. His running in that role is so crucial to how we play but his end product is non-existent.
Klopp transformed Henderson but PP hasn't managed it with Vela.
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
But the point is his engine and workrate are crucial. But on the ball, he just doesn't do enough.Jugs wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:31 pmVela's reached his limit. He's not good enough. We need a CM who can drive us forward, pick passes and have some conviction in his shooting - like Frandsen. I thought Vela would be all that but he isn't, and probably won't be.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:27 amYes. And ultimately Wildschut.boltonboris wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:25 amRegardless of the circumstances, it was a good point - And a point, we scarcely deserved.
4 points from these 2 games is an excellent return, but we clearly missed Ameobi's quality - Magennis is a big, hard-working lad, but the ball did not stick at all and we needed a second outball, which Ameobi offers.
We've a conundrum in that we rely on Vela's workrate, but that lad has no quality on the ball whatsoever. Not sure how we solve that. His running in that role is so crucial to how we play but his end product is non-existent.
Klopp transformed Henderson but PP hasn't managed it with Vela.
I'd like to say "play Oztumer" but we know we lose loads when Vela isn't in there.
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
I get the feeling Vela has more in his locker. He used to be excellent in training with shooting and drilled passes, but we never see it in games. He seems to lack belief in his technical game. I live in hope. We need to make the best of what we have.
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
We are going to be find for collecting six bookings on Saturday.
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/foo ... er-1891155
It also means we can be punished further for any more similar transgressions later in the season. I don't like to criticize refs, but John Brooks was one of the worst I've ever seen. To him, a physical but fair challenge meant a foul and a free kick. Then midway through the second half he felt he had to start brandishing yellow cards no doubt on the accumulation principle.
No doubt Ken will subtract it from end of season bonuses
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/foo ... er-1891155
It also means we can be punished further for any more similar transgressions later in the season. I don't like to criticize refs, but John Brooks was one of the worst I've ever seen. To him, a physical but fair challenge meant a foul and a free kick. Then midway through the second half he felt he had to start brandishing yellow cards no doubt on the accumulation principle.
No doubt Ken will subtract it from end of season bonuses
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Re: MATCH THREAD: Into the great unknown. Bristol City (H) -11th Aug, 2018
I'd never usually suggest this, but any fine needs to be appealed. That display was shocking and everyone knows it.bristol_Wanderer3 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:44 pmWe are going to be find for collecting six bookings on Saturday.
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/foo ... er-1891155
It also means we can be punished further for any more similar transgressions later in the season. I don't like to criticize refs, but John Brooks was one of the worst I've ever seen. To him, a physical but fair challenge meant a foul and a free kick. Then midway through the second half he felt he had to start brandishing yellow cards no doubt on the accumulation principle.
No doubt Ken will subtract it from end of season bonuses
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