Next Up - Freeman's Replacement
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I wouldn't want MacKay - suspect Chungy wouldn't either.
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Yeah, that's right. You can't imagine potential signings who've only read the newspaper headlines will be keen on playing under him, so it'd likely have a detrimental effect on our ability to sign players. You can't really have sympathy for Mackay but no matter how many times he apologises, everything he said in the past will make any future jobs a lot harder for him.throwawayboltonian wrote:Agreed, however re Mackay I question his ability not only to win the players we have over with his reputation, but also to bring new players into the club. I think his reputation is shot to shit and his only way back is to come in as an assistant somewhere to work his way back up. Hughton would be my preference.SmokinFrazier wrote:These are the three stand out candidates for me too. Mackay is a good manager but my only reservation is whether the players would take to him or not. A few months ago, he'd have been a definite 'yes' but I don't know how badly marred his reputation is amongst footballers, and if they genuinely believe he's a bigot, will they give their all for him? I don't know. For that reason, whilst Mackay is a good manager, there's an element of risk for the next club who hires him and I'm not sure we're in a strong enough position to take risks. I like Hughton a lot and I think we have a group of players that are suitable for attacking football, which is what he delivered when he was most successful, so he might be the most suitable choice for the squad we've got. He didn't do great at Norwich but I'd be happy with giving him a chance with us. McDermott is probably the one with the best reputation at the moment and he'd done well wherever he's been, even at Leeds when he had a very tough job. He wouldn't set the world alight but I think he knows what he's doing so I'd be happy with him.ChrisC wrote:Mackay.. Hughton.. Mcdermott.. please.
Not more risks. Got to get this one right and that means managers proven in this league.
All three are good candidates though. I'd much rather go for one of those three than one of the numerous untested managers on that list.
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Dave Jones for me. Done well at several clubs, got Cardiff to the playoffs before they had bags of cash. Unemployed and free and experienced.
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Bet curbishley gets an interview again
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On Oddschecker, the odd have shortened since the announcement for
1) Mackay - he's come in from around 12's I think to 5's
2) Browny - he's come in from around 20's to as short as 9/2
3) McDemott - he's come in from 20's to 6/1 / 12/1
4) Mowbray - think he was pitched at around 33's now between 8's and 14's
5) Hill - not sure where he started exactly, but there some money going on him
JP is on the drift outwards but still between 2 1/2 to 4's
Of the last three managers, two of them didn't really come into the betting (iirc) until it became known we'd asked permission to talk to the Chairman (Megson/Freedman). Coyle was there a bit earlier...
1) Mackay - he's come in from around 12's I think to 5's
2) Browny - he's come in from around 20's to as short as 9/2
3) McDemott - he's come in from 20's to 6/1 / 12/1
4) Mowbray - think he was pitched at around 33's now between 8's and 14's
5) Hill - not sure where he started exactly, but there some money going on him
JP is on the drift outwards but still between 2 1/2 to 4's
Of the last three managers, two of them didn't really come into the betting (iirc) until it became known we'd asked permission to talk to the Chairman (Megson/Freedman). Coyle was there a bit earlier...
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I wouldn't be surprised if Gartside was thinking of Paul Ince.....Not that I would want him as manager!!
I wouldn't mind Dave Flitcroft - seems to be doing a good job as manager at Bury.....what about david moyes? (I know...ex MUFC)
I wouldn't mind Dave Flitcroft - seems to be doing a good job as manager at Bury.....what about david moyes? (I know...ex MUFC)
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Moyes would be a great appointment.
I don't think we would get him though.
I don't think we would get him though.
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I think Moyes is in the Pulis category - unlikely...
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Keith Hill is the man.
Keith Hill's super white army.
The song is made for him.
Keith Hill's super white army.
The song is made for him.
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What's Hills management record like..can't say I have followed himjaffka wrote:Keith Hill is the man.
Keith Hill's super white army.
The song is made for him.
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Does anyone seriously give a crap about the Mackay thing? Surely every player in that locker room has something on his phone that would bar him from any future employment if it were released in the press by a vindictive lunatic.
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Rochdale - 16 December 2006 to 1 June 2011 - Win ratio 43.72twilight wrote:What's Hills management record like..can't say I have followed himjaffka wrote:Keith Hill is the man.
Keith Hill's super white army.
The song is made for him.
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Yesterday's newspapers are today's chip wrappers. Allardyce's rep got a tonking after panorama, but he's never been short of offers of work. And would football players themselves actually consider McKay's behaviour to be as outrageous as, say, the comments page of the Guardian? Not condoning what he did, but just saying...SmokinFrazier wrote:Yeah, that's right. You can't imagine potential signings who've only read the newspaper headlines will be keen on playing under him, so it'd likely have a detrimental effect on our ability to sign players. You can't really have sympathy for Mackay but no matter how many times he apologises, everything he said in the past will make any future jobs a lot harder for him.throwawayboltonian wrote:Agreed, however re Mackay I question his ability not only to win the players we have over with his reputation, but also to bring new players into the club. I think his reputation is shot to shit and his only way back is to come in as an assistant somewhere to work his way back up. Hughton would be my preference.SmokinFrazier wrote:These are the three stand out candidates for me too. Mackay is a good manager but my only reservation is whether the players would take to him or not. A few months ago, he'd have been a definite 'yes' but I don't know how badly marred his reputation is amongst footballers, and if they genuinely believe he's a bigot, will they give their all for him? I don't know. For that reason, whilst Mackay is a good manager, there's an element of risk for the next club who hires him and I'm not sure we're in a strong enough position to take risks. I like Hughton a lot and I think we have a group of players that are suitable for attacking football, which is what he delivered when he was most successful, so he might be the most suitable choice for the squad we've got. He didn't do great at Norwich but I'd be happy with giving him a chance with us. McDermott is probably the one with the best reputation at the moment and he'd done well wherever he's been, even at Leeds when he had a very tough job. He wouldn't set the world alight but I think he knows what he's doing so I'd be happy with him.ChrisC wrote:Mackay.. Hughton.. Mcdermott.. please.
Not more risks. Got to get this one right and that means managers proven in this league.
All three are good candidates though. I'd much rather go for one of those three than one of the numerous untested managers on that list.
The fact that McKay is considered by some to be damaged goods means that we might actually be in with a chance of "attracting" him to this club, which to be fair must look like a poisoned chalice to most outsiders. I'm sure we will get plenty of chancers sniffing around the job, but he's done the biz in the championship before, I'd back him to take on the job and do well. Still time for the play-offs?!
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"On the arrival of South Korean international Kim Bo-Kyung:H. Pedersen wrote:Does anyone seriously give a crap about the Mackay thing? Surely every player in that locker room has something on his phone that would bar him from any future employment if it were released in the press by a vindictive lunatic.
'Fkn chinkys. Fk it. There's enough dogs in Cardiff for us all to go around.'
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Er yeah, I'd say so.H. Pedersen wrote:Does anyone seriously give a crap about the Mackay thing? Surely every player in that locker room has something on his phone that would bar him from any future employment if it were released in the press by a vindictive lunatic.
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H. Pedersen wrote:Does anyone seriously give a crap about the Mackay thing? Surely every player in that locker room has something on his phone that would bar him from any future employment if it were released in the press by a vindictive lunatic.
really?? you think every player has racist/homophobic/sexist or some-kind-of-hate-texts on their phone such as would bar them from employment if it were known??? really??
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Sky touting Mowbray.
Sky touting Mowbray.
I feel reborn !!!! No more confussion
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surely nobody is "in the running" yet!! far too early!!
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Mowbray likes his players playing the football how it should be played way doesn't he? We don't play like that
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Him and Browny are the two that have come in most in the betting (probably because Sky is touting one of them, and it's not too far a leap to think we might be considering the other (even if we're not))
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