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Who will you be voting for?

Labour
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39%
Conservatives
10
36%
Liberal Democrats
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7%
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
0
No votes
Green Party
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11%
Plaid Cymru
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Other
1
4%
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4%
 
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Enoch » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:08 pm

Prufrock wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:28 pm
Indeed!
Seems Grayling gave it his full attention this time!

Poor little Rory.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by jimbo » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:40 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:10 pm
So that's Javid out, unsurprisingly.

I'm just disappointed that Rory Stewart's out, as now I'm going to have to vote for somebody I don't want to vote for in a general election, just to do my bit in keeping Corbyn out.
You probably reflect most of the population with those sentiments Bruce. There’ll be a lot of people voting at the next election for the party they dislike the least which is a shame. Personally I’ll probably come down on the labour side of that decision, partly because I’m in a safe Tory seat and the local MP is a bit of a knob.

I’ve noticed the last few weeks how the Tories are obviously being told to mention Corbyn as much as possible which again reflects the general public attitude towards him and Labour’s big problem. They know people will be against him being in charge. No conservative MP mentions labour, instead opting for the full Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party at every opportunity. In the debate the other night Gove went out of his way to have a go at Corbyn, and again today we’re being told that whatever happens we mustn’t let Jeremy Corbyn into number 10. Conservative plan is obviously to paint him as some sort of political bogey man, winning votes by putting fear into the public at the prospect of him as PM.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Enoch » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:23 am

Enoch wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:34 pm
Cabinet Secretary talking about leaving the EU without a withdrawal agreement:

* There has been "a lot of preparation".

* "We have got the government in pretty good shape and public services in pretty good shape for it".

* "We did a lot of preparation for no-deal in the run-up to the March/April deadline and of course we continue to try and keep those programmes in the best possible shape."


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Yet, apparently many UK businesses are not close to being ready.

HMRC launched the Transitional Simplified Procedures scheme in February, aimed at easing imports in the event of the UK leaving the customs union and single market abruptly.

Fewer than 10% of the firms estimated to require the status had applied for it as of 26 May.

If they spent as much energy doing something positive as they do wringing hands and predicting doom....

"About 150,000 businesses still do not have the paperwork they need to keep exporting to the EU in the event of a no-deal Brexit, Mark Carney has said."

"Moan, moan. Bitch, bitch...." said the CBI.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:45 am

It's a shame Liz Truss never stood, I'd have watched all her interviews.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Enoch » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:08 pm

"Mr Hunt said Boris Johnson had challenged him to a debate on ITV, scheduled to take place on 9 July.

He accepted, but then "realised" it would take place the day after party members received their postal ballots."


Yep, that bodes well for the future!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:56 pm

:shock: I'd expect a little more soundproofing in a £4,000,000 flat.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Enoch » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:26 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:56 pm
:shock: I'd expect a little more soundproofing in a £4,000,000 flat.
No amount of soundproofing is effective against those little holes folk drill through walls.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:40 pm

Enoch wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:26 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:56 pm
:shock: I'd expect a little more soundproofing in a £4,000,000 flat.
No amount of soundproofing is effective against those little holes folk drill through walls.
And, she apparently recorded it. The neighbour that is! The one who went round and pounded on the doors before calling the police. I'd love to live next door to her (not because I have political ambitions, nor because I want to stretch my misogyny to breaking point, but because I'd like to disappoint the hell out of the cxnt when she reviews the inane chatter that takes place whenever me and the missus congregate).
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Enoch » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:22 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:40 pm
Enoch wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:26 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:56 pm
:shock: I'd expect a little more soundproofing in a £4,000,000 flat.
No amount of soundproofing is effective against those little holes folk drill through walls.
And, she apparently recorded it. The neighbour that is! The one who went round and pounded on the doors before calling the police. I'd love to live next door to her (not because I have political ambitions, nor because I want to stretch my misogyny to breaking point, but because I'd like to disappoint the hell out of the cxnt when she reviews the inane chatter that takes place whenever me and the missus congregate).
Bit like the bloke with a camera on his helmet. :shock:

Wonder how many hours were in the can to get that little snippet.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by malcd1 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:48 am

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:40 pm
Enoch wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:26 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:56 pm
:shock: I'd expect a little more soundproofing in a £4,000,000 flat.
No amount of soundproofing is effective against those little holes folk drill through walls.
And, she apparently recorded it. The neighbour that is! The one who went round and pounded on the doors before calling the police. I'd love to live next door to her (not because I have political ambitions, nor because I want to stretch my misogyny to breaking point, but because I'd like to disappoint the hell out of the cxnt when she reviews the inane chatter that takes place whenever me and the missus congregate).

So of today's newspaper saying the next door neighbour is a die-hard Remainer. You can understand why she has done it this way and why it has 'probably' been blown out of all proportion. Not heard the audio but if everyone phoned the police every time neighbours had a domestic argument, then we would need about 100 timed more coppers than we do now.

Even the Guardian article says a man's voice was calmer and telling a woman to calm down and she was screaming and shouting.

I'm not a Boris fan but this is just ridiculous.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by TANGODANCER » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:06 am

Latest is Boris and partner both claiming this is a fit up...?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:21 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:06 am
Latest is Boris and partner both claiming this is a fit up...?
I have another exclusive! (Well, hardly exclusive, but nearly exclusive...)
The neighbour of the neighbour of the girlfriend of the next potential prime minister, is the boss of my sister-in-law's daughter's boyfriend.
Anyway, he's told my niece who's told my wife that the neighbour - Eve Leigh- is a leftwing idealogue and stuck up bitch (the neighbour of Ms Leigh being a council tenant, and both Ms Leigh and Ms Symonds live in flats that used to be council property) who has organised something called the Camberwell Collective or somesuch which have been hounding Boris Johnson ever since he turned up some months ago in their eco-socialist 'hood. Pure venom on legs is how he describes Ms Leigh. :lol:
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Enoch » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:34 pm

Who'd a thought it!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:46 pm

Enoch wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:34 pm
Who'd a thought it!
I was shocked!
There are photos of Alexander Boris deSomething Johnson being handed packages of [take away food/ drugs] whilst dressed in his [underpants/fez - actually a smoking hat] circulating amongst the Camberwell Collective, and outrageously not being published by the National Press.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Prufrock » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:28 pm

I think the press reaction is very odd. Individual journalists pearl-clutching about his right to privacy while the publications they work for splash pages of print about it (continuing their long tradition of spying/hacking et al).

It seems to be fairly common ground that there was an almighty row and the sound of things being smashed. Having volunteered in my younger days for a domestic violence charity I must say that the idea that calling the police in those circumstances is anything other than the right thing to do is wrong, IMO.

In fact, I think it was probably just a row with no violence and we've all been there.

However, I also think that people are entitled to expect that story investigated, and if you want to be PM you have no expectation of privacy when the police are called to a potential domestic incident at your house (how far they coverage then goes depends on what is found out, and if it's just that it was a row, any intrusion should end there).

Even by modern standards I've found the approaches to this incredibly partisan!
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:24 pm

The New EU anthem

On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair
Warm smell of colitas, rising up through the air
Up ahead in the distance, I saw a shimmering light
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I had to stop for the night
There she stood in the doorway
I heard the mission bell
And I was thinking to myself
"This could be Heaven or this could be Hell"
Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way
There were voices down the corridor
I thought I heard them say

Welcome to the Hotel California
Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely face
Plenty of room at the Hotel California
Any time of year (Any time of year)
You can find it here

Her mind is Tiffany-twisted, she got the Mercedes bends
She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys she calls friends
How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat
Some dance to remember, some dance to forget

So I called up the Captain
"Please bring me my wine."
He said, "We haven't had that spirit here since nineteen sixty nine."
And still those voices are calling from far away
Wake you up in the middle of the night
Just to hear them say

Welcome to the Hotel California
Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely face
They livin' it up at the Hotel California
What a nice surprise (what a nice surprise)
Bring your alibis

Mirrors on the ceiling
The pink champagne on ice
And she said "We are all just prisoners here, of our own device"
And in the master's chambers
They gathered for the feast
They stab it with their steely knives
But they just can't kill the beast

Last thing I remember
I was running for the door
I had to find the passage back to the place I was before
"Relax," said the night man
"We are programmed to receive
You can check-out any time you like
But you can never leave!"

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:41 am

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:46 pm
Enoch wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:34 pm
Who'd a thought it!
I was shocked!
There are photos of Alexander Boris deSomething Johnson being handed packages of [take away food/ drugs] whilst dressed in his [underpants/fez - actually a smoking hat] circulating amongst the Camberwell Collective, and outrageously not being published by the National Press.
I think that this must only point towards a hitherto unsuspected level of humility on the part of the fourth estate.

Who the fecking Dickens wants to see Boris Johnson in his scruds?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:15 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:41 am
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:46 pm
Enoch wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:34 pm
Who'd a thought it!
I was shocked!
There are photos of Alexander Boris deSomething Johnson being handed packages of [take away food/ drugs] whilst dressed in his [underpants/fez - actually a smoking hat] circulating amongst the Camberwell Collective, and outrageously not being published by the National Press.
I think that this must only point towards a hitherto unsuspected level of humility on the part of the fourth estate.

Who the fecking Dickens wants to see Boris Johnson in his scruds?
My wife, Enoch's girlfriend, Gooner Girl, most of the women in this country!!! Why, I don't know... :conf:
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Enoch » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:00 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:15 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:41 am
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:46 pm
Enoch wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:34 pm
Who'd a thought it!
I was shocked!
There are photos of Alexander Boris deSomething Johnson being handed packages of [take away food/ drugs] whilst dressed in his [underpants/fez - actually a smoking hat] circulating amongst the Camberwell Collective, and outrageously not being published by the National Press.
I think that this must only point towards a hitherto unsuspected level of humility on the part of the fourth estate.

Who the fecking Dickens wants to see Boris Johnson in his scruds?
My wife, Enoch's girlfriend, Gooner Girl, most of the women in this country!!! Why, I don't know... :conf:
I would happily supply a shot or two of Enoch in his scuds.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:56 pm

Enoch wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:00 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:15 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:41 am
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:46 pm
Enoch wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:34 pm
Who'd a thought it!
I was shocked!
There are photos of Alexander Boris deSomething Johnson being handed packages of [take away food/ drugs] whilst dressed in his [underpants/fez - actually a smoking hat] circulating amongst the Camberwell Collective, and outrageously not being published by the National Press.
I think that this must only point towards a hitherto unsuspected level of humility on the part of the fourth estate.

Who the fecking Dickens wants to see Boris Johnson in his scruds?
My wife, Enoch's girlfriend, Gooner Girl, most of the women in this country!!! Why, I don't know... :conf:
I would happily supply a shot or two of Enoch in his scuds.
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