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Lloyd George knows my father

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:03 pm
by William the White
Why support Bolton Wanderers? Didn't have any choice. No say in the matter. That's just how it is. Get used to it, and enjoy it. If you're Jewish you get circumcised, if you're in my family you support the Trotters. We have a season ticket from 1926 in my family - it belonged to my father's great aunt. It cost half price for 'boys and ladies'... One guinea in the posh seats. And there was a Warburton on the Board even then, I kid you not...

My father took me to Burnden Park when i was nine. Now he's 81, and i take him to the match. And, when she's back home, my daughter's with us - she got the bug when eleven. I like that. That continuity. That sense of identity. That endurance. :?

And I like that I sit with a bunch of mates who've been going together for a long time - one of them since both of us were fifteen, and making our first trip to London. We saw all the sights we could cram into a long day, and watched us get beaten by Spurs.

First game? a 4-0 defeat by PNE at home in 1958, floodlit, from the top of the Embankment... Fantastic...

Best game - too many. But a lot of them might involve beating a Team from Stretford. Perhaps beating Liverpool away in the FA Cup replay, 1993, was a vey special game, though, that signalled the return of the club from the unspeakable dross of Divisions 3 and (unbelievably!) 4, and gave us all hope.

Worst game. Too many. But one of them might be 0-6 at home against Newton Heath, on a dull, menacing day on the way to relegation, in an atmosphere as sour as lemons.

Most favourite player ever. For sheer joy - J J on song. For captaincy - Paul Jones. For best bargain - Gudni. For intelligence and vision - Youri. But every division has seen a team with heroes, and the lamentable. Oh, Henry Mowbray runs the most lamentable list pretty high. A crap full back, brought to the club by jimmy Armfield, who, you would have thought, might have know a thing or two about full backery...

Hated player? I can't do hatred. Pull on that white shirt, and you're mine, and even if i can't love you, i'll go on hoping that some day you'll do better, even when the evidence to the contary is overwhelming. I can't boo at the end of a bad defeat. I can't get finger waving furious at incompetence.

I used to do glum and red wine pretty well. But a few seasons ago I decided BW were not going to make me unhappy again. And they don't. Though it can take a real act of will.

I do joy unbridled and red wine very well indeed, though... given the chance.

Been enjoying the site. Will probably join in the chat.

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:08 pm
by Soldier_Of_The_White_Army
Brilliant introduction WTW, probably the best I've ever read on here :D

Welcome the the site, if every post is as well thought out and as interesting as your intro, you're going to be a great member to have around!

Re: Lloyd George knows my father

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:20 pm
by Bruce Rioja
William the White wrote:Why support Bolton Wanderers? Didn't have any choice. No say in the matter. That's just how it is. Get used to it, and enjoy it. If you're Jewish ...................
William, I kid you not, you've just made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, and have brought goosebumps to my forearms. Cheers, Fella. Welcome.

Re: Lloyd George knows my father

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:24 pm
by Soldier_Of_The_White_Army
Bruce Rioja wrote:
William the White wrote:Why support Bolton Wanderers? Didn't have any choice. No say in the matter. That's just how it is. Get used to it, and enjoy it. If you're Jewish ...................
William, I kid you not, you've just made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, and have brought goosebumps to my forearms. Cheers, Fella. Welcome.
Never had you down as being Jewish Bruce :D

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:35 pm
by Worthy4England
Aye - excellent intro WTW - welcome.

Re: Lloyd George knows my father

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:38 pm
by Bruce Rioja
Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:Never had you down as being Jewish Bruce :D
:lol: I'm not, though I do share the one, perhaps most defining characteristic of the Jewish male, but there's no need to elaborate on here thank-you!

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:01 pm
by keveh
Brilliant intro, one of the best this site has ever seen!

Welcome, and get stuck in!

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:07 pm
by TANGODANCER
Well done your Shakespeareness. A Wandererer with pedigree, glad to have you aboard. :mrgreen:

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:11 pm
by Batman
Alright WW

Welcome

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:13 pm
by CrazyHorse
Welcome William.

Cracking intro. Enjoy the sights of the site. :D

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:19 pm
by Montreal Wanderer
Welcome, Oh Bard of Croal - I only regret I shall miss the play unless it goes off broadway.

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:22 pm
by Bruce Rioja
By the way, just to clarify; Did Lloyd George really know your father? :conf:

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:26 pm
by Montreal Wanderer
Bruce Rioja wrote:By the way, just to clarify; Did Lloyd George really know your father? :conf:
More likely a reference to this:
This is the title of a play by William Douglas Home in 1972. However... credit for the saying is given to Tommy Rhys Roberts QC (who died in 1975), whose father did know Lloyd George because he set up a practice with him in 1897.

Of course it's likely, knowing Lloyd George's womanising reputation that the original line was "Lloyd George WAS my father".
Amazing what comes out of Llanystwmdwy! In this case a small randy welshman!
or
Lloyd George ("The Welsh goat"), real name, David Lloyd George, was a politician of some note 1890 to 1945 with the liberal party. As a young man, Lloyd George was considered goodlooking which ensured his success with rhe ladies. In 1888 he married Margaret Owen, with whom he had two sons and three daughters, but it was not a happy marriage and he was a notorious philanderer and had several illegitimate children. As the music hall song has it, "Lloyd George knew my father", but the real question it was often more appropriate to ask was, whether he knew your mother!

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:02 pm
by Bruce Rioja
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:By the way, just to clarify; Did Lloyd George really know your father? :conf:
More likely a reference to this:
This is the title of a play by William Douglas Home in 1972. However... credit for the saying is given to Tommy Rhys Roberts QC (who died in 1975), whose father did know Lloyd George because he set up a practice with him in 1897.

Of course it's likely, knowing Lloyd George's womanising reputation that the original line was "Lloyd George WAS my father".
Amazing what comes out of Llanystwmdwy! In this case a small randy welshman!
or
Lloyd George ("The Welsh goat"), real name, David Lloyd George, was a politician of some note 1890 to 1945 with the liberal party. As a young man, Lloyd George was considered goodlooking which ensured his success with rhe ladies. In 1888 he married Margaret Owen, with whom he had two sons and three daughters, but it was not a happy marriage and he was a notorious philanderer and had several illegitimate children. As the music hall song has it, "Lloyd George knew my father", but the real question it was often more appropriate to ask was, whether he knew your mother!
See. If you hang around with the right sort. :wink:

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:20 pm
by Little Green Man
Best introduction since Tony Curtis declared himself to be Spartacus.

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:56 pm
by William the White
Many thanks for the welcomes...
:D

The music hall song 'Lloyd George knows my father' was sung as a goal celebration on the Embankment early in the 1960s. it lasted as a favourite for about two seasons.

It has a dirge-like quality, not entirely inappropriate for those seasons as we crept closer and closer to 1964 and our first relegation in 30 years.

Re: Lloyd George knows my father

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:38 pm
by communistworkethic
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:Never had you down as being Jewish Bruce :D
:lol: I'm not, though I do share the one, perhaps most defining characteristic of the Jewish male, but there's no need to elaborate on here thank-you!
aye, you're tight as feck!!!!

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:23 am
by CAPSLOCK
William the White wrote:Many thanks for the welcomes...
:D

The music hall song 'Lloyd George knows my father' was sung as a goal celebration on the Embankment early in the 1960s. it lasted as a favourite for about two seasons.

It has a dirge-like quality, not entirely inappropriate for those seasons as we crept closer and closer to 1964 and our first relegation in 30 years.
Its an old fave, often brought out when the ale has flowed

In fact, its coming out in Skopje, Thursday

Probably a rendition or two of Strawberry Nose as well

Re: Lloyd George knows my father

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:59 am
by Bruce Rioja
communistworkethic wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:Never had you down as being Jewish Bruce :D
:lol: I'm not, though I do share the one, perhaps most defining characteristic of the Jewish male, but there's no need to elaborate on here thank-you!
aye, you're tight as feck!!!!
Says the Yorkshirean banker! :shock:

Re: Lloyd George knows my father

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:05 am
by Soldier_Of_The_White_Army
Bruce Rioja wrote:
communistworkethic wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:Never had you down as being Jewish Bruce :D
:lol: I'm not, though I do share the one, perhaps most defining characteristic of the Jewish male, but there's no need to elaborate on here thank-you!
aye, you're tight as feck!!!!
Says the Yorkshirean banker! :shock:
Shocking spelling Bruce! :wink: