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For the fans, by the fans

Post by Dujon » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:20 am

As an ex-pat I'm disappointed that the front page musings and match reports and previews seem to have fallen by the wayside. This site was based on the idea of members contributing little essays and reports which would normally be a bit too large for inclusion in a 'thread' but were perfect as a basis for further discussion. I believe that the tacit understanding was that such inclusions were to be about football, as related to BWFC, but could cover just about anything within that sphere of interest.

I miss them.

Have we evolved to a point where such contributions are pointless or have we, collectively, fallen to a place where the phrase 'for the fans, by the fans' has become a Non Sequitur?

Just a thought.

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Re: For the fans, by the fans

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:27 am

I think everyone is depressed with the shambles we've been for so long. Hard to muster the enthusiasm. I also miss the articles, but not feeling inspired to write one either...

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Re: For the fans, by the fans

Post by CrazyHorse » Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:53 am

The articles are still there waiting to be written, I think most folk enjoy reading them. But for the last two seasons the uptake to the editors' requests for regular previews and reports was lacklustre at best.

The state of our football is partially to blame, as AT says but also the internet isn't the same as it was-I think Facebook & twitter have changed things.

Anyway, if anyone fancies writing a Watford preview or match report speak up. Or pm it to either TANGO or me and it will magically appear on the front page.
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:55 am

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:I think everyone is depressed with the shambles we've been for so long. Hard to muster the enthusiasm. I also miss the articles, but not feeling inspired to write one either...
Although I'm fairly new to the forum I can echo AT's remarks.
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Post by thebish » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:20 am

for my part - I used to write previews and the occasional article - the results and the football and the whole club atmosphere (possibly consequently the forum atmosphere) ground me down and I couldn't face writing them with no discernible hope that it'd be any different from the previous week... the same thing finally did for TWSpy (though I think that had run its course anyway...)

I was kind of hoping Dougie's arrival would sweep all that away - he hasn't yet - but maybe the reappearance of articles and previews and match reports by members will be a real measure - and a properly objective one (!) - of whether Dougie succeeds or not!
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Post by bwfcdan94 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:00 am

I did write one for the U21 game against Reading, but I thought given "my standing" as it were on here at the time it was best not to send it in.
The above post is complete bollox/garbage/nonsense, please point this out to me at any and every occasion possible.

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:45 am

bwfcdan94 wrote:I did write one for the U21 game against Reading, but I thought given "my standing" as it were on here at the time it was best not to send it in.
Send it in Dan. Even if it needs some editing it is worth it. Most articles get some form of editing before publication, so don't see that as a negative.

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Post by bobo the clown » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:01 am

Maybe BL3 would fancy doing one.

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Post by jaffka » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:15 pm

bobo the clown wrote:Maybe BL3 would fancy doing one.

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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:30 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
bwfcdan94 wrote:I did write one for the U21 game against Reading, but I thought given "my standing" as it were on here at the time it was best not to send it in.
Send it in Dan. Even if it needs some editing it is worth it. Most articles get some form of editing before publication, so don't see that as a negative.
Indeed, no better way to enhance your skills, Dan. Editors like to tinker with my articles before publication, AT (usually to shorten them :twisted: ) and I find it very annoying! However, you are correct. Writers write, editors edit - who has the real talent?
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Post by thebish » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:39 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
bwfcdan94 wrote:I did write one for the U21 game against Reading, but I thought given "my standing" as it were on here at the time it was best not to send it in.
Send it in Dan. Even if it needs some editing it is worth it. Most articles get some form of editing before publication, so don't see that as a negative.
Indeed, no better way to enhance your skills, Dan. Editors like to tinker with my articles before publication, AT (usually to shorten them :twisted: ) and I find it very annoying! However, you are correct. Writers write, editors edit - who has the real talent?
Tango used to edit my previews - they always appeared with an extra paragraph extolling KD's virtues! :wink:
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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:29 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote: Indeed, no better way to enhance your skills, Dan. Editors like to tinker with my articles before publication, AT (usually to shorten them :twisted: ) and I find it very annoying! However, you are correct. Writers write, editors edit - who has the real talent?
You have my sympathy Monty. I used to work with the buggers and they used to edit my emails when replying to me. I swear they were born with a red pen up their arse :evil:
thebish wrote: Tango used to edit my previews - they always appeared with an extra paragraph extolling KD's virtues! :wink:
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Re: For the fans, by the fans

Post by bwfcdan94 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:14 pm

Have sent it in to Tango btw.
The above post is complete bollox/garbage/nonsense, please point this out to me at any and every occasion possible.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:01 pm

bwfcdan94 wrote:Have sent it in to Tango btw.
You're on the Home page Dan. Well done. :wink:
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Post by clapton is god » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:21 pm

^ well done, Dan.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:50 pm

^ Very well done indeed, Dan. A really good read. Have you thought about putting yourself forth as being the site's U18's Correspondent? I think it could be good for all.
As Dujon attests, yes, the rest of us have become quite shite at match reports (previews being a waste of time as far as I can see), so, maybe a more concerted effort by all is required. However, and I've made this suggestion before, that we all know how the football went, so match reports should be more of an individuals account of their experience (as Dan's is).
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Re: For the fans, by the fans

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:11 pm

That's the stuff, Dan though it was probably better before Tango edited it...
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Re: For the fans, by the fans

Post by Dujon » Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:58 am

What a fantastic response! I was expecting either no reaction or some sort of lukewarm blathering. Your collective comments regarding us being poor over the last season or two I understand but, come on, it's the club we all follow through thick and thin isn't it?

To you, CrazyHorse, I was in no way criticising admin or the moderators/editors. After all there's not much you can do if members don't submit the copy.

Dan, that was an interesting little article and just the thing we need (well, in my opinion anyway). I certainly wasn't expecting such a rapid submission!

Right, the rest of you, flat caps on and quills at the ready . . . Go

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Re: For the fans, by the fans

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:03 am

Good job Dan :D

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Re: For the fans, by the fans

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:56 am

Can I just say that I don't believe for a second that Dan's report was edited by Tango - (not a single mention extolling the virtues of SKD).
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