ALLARDYCE APPOINTED NEWCASTLE MANAGER

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Re: ALLARDYCE APPOINTED NEWCASTLE MANAGER

Post by trotter58 » Tue May 08, 2007 1:31 pm

hisroyalgingerness wrote:what and miss out on his avatars, which by the way commie is due an update
Something tells me that the avatars are probably a substitute for the real thing. All that attention seeking is probably a result of pent up frustration.
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Re: ALLARDYCE APPOINTED NEWCASTLE MANAGER

Post by James B » Tue May 08, 2007 1:39 pm

trotter58 wrote:
hisroyalgingerness wrote:what and miss out on his avatars, which by the way commie is due an update
Something tells me that the avatars are probably a substitute for the real thing. All that attention seeking is probably a result of pent up frustration.
yeah but when they look so good who is going to care?

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Post by Mixu Fattypieman » Tue May 08, 2007 1:42 pm

If Allardyce starts to poach our backroom staff his credibility in my eyes will be severley eroded.

After stating how much he had a connection with the club and how he had set us up for contunied success in the future, to come in and dismantle what he has left us with would be amazingly hypocritical.

The playing staff are a lesser concern, its the expertise and knowledge in the backroom staff that are kind of things that will help us to succeed over the long-term. If Sam tries to take this apart he will have dismantled his own legacy to the club.

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Post by trotter58 » Tue May 08, 2007 1:46 pm

Mixu Fattypieman wrote:If Allardyce starts to poach our backroom staff his credibility in my eyes will be severley eroded.

After stating how much he had a connection with the club and how he had set us up for contunied success in the future, to come in and dismantle what he has left us with would be amazingly hypocritical.

The playing staff are a lesser concern, its the expertise and knowledge in the backroom staff that are kind of things that will help us to succeed over the long-term. If Sam tries to take this apart he will have dismantled his own legacy to the club.
Careful, you're in danger of steering the thread back onto the actual topic!

For what it's worth i think that the backroom staff would be easier to replace than the players but at least Newcastle have already got a decent keeper!
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Post by bobo the clown » Tue May 08, 2007 1:58 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Apparently, due to having a new manager inplace, as opposed to being left without one, suing might not apply?
No ... that appointment wouldn't have need to have been made if he hadn't walked, so it's irrelevant to the legalities of a breach of contract.

It would reduce any claim for "further damages" ... but that's a totally different area of contract law.
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Post by TANGODANCER » Tue May 08, 2007 2:13 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Apparently, due to having a new manager inplace, as opposed to being left without one, suing might not apply?
No ... that appointment wouldn't have need to have been made if he hadn't walked, so it's irrelevant to the legalities of a breach of contract.

It would reduce any claim for "further damages" ... but that's a totally different area of contract law.
Well, at least the worst thing that an happen now is "Newcastle Manager accused of bung-taking" :mrgreen:
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Post by trotter58 » Tue May 08, 2007 4:35 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Apparently, due to having a new manager inplace, as opposed to being left without one, suing might not apply?
No ... that appointment wouldn't have need to have been made if he hadn't walked, so it's irrelevant to the legalities of a breach of contract.

It would reduce any claim for "further damages" ... but that's a totally different area of contract law.
Are we in a position to prevent him taking up his post pending a suitable compensation payment? I do hope so.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue May 08, 2007 4:36 pm

trotter58 wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Apparently, due to having a new manager inplace, as opposed to being left without one, suing might not apply?
No ... that appointment wouldn't have need to have been made if he hadn't walked, so it's irrelevant to the legalities of a breach of contract.

It would reduce any claim for "further damages" ... but that's a totally different area of contract law.
Are we in a position to prevent him taking up his post pending a suitable compensation payment? I do hope so.
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Post by warthog » Tue May 08, 2007 4:39 pm

I suspect Garty and Fat Freddy will be watching the Simon Jordan v Ian Dowie case which is to be heard in summer. If Dowie loses then you can bet that Sam will be on the receiving end of a writ.

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Post by trotter58 » Tue May 08, 2007 5:14 pm

warthog wrote:I suspect Garty and Fat Freddy will be watching the Simon Jordan v Ian Dowie case which is to be heard in summer. If Dowie loses then you can bet that Sam will be on the receiving end of a writ.
Does that mean that we get to send some huge bloke to gatecrash Newcastle's press conference to serve a writ on Allardyce, much like Jordan attempted to do when Dowie was appointed?!
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Post by warthog » Tue May 08, 2007 5:16 pm

trotter58 wrote:
warthog wrote:I suspect Garty and Fat Freddy will be watching the Simon Jordan v Ian Dowie case which is to be heard in summer. If Dowie loses then you can bet that Sam will be on the receiving end of a writ.
Does that mean that we get to send some huge bloke to gatecrash Newcastle's press conference to serve a writ on Allardyce, much like Jordan attempted to do when Dowie was appointed?!
Sounds good to me.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue May 08, 2007 5:17 pm

trotter58 wrote:
warthog wrote:I suspect Garty and Fat Freddy will be watching the Simon Jordan v Ian Dowie case which is to be heard in summer. If Dowie loses then you can bet that Sam will be on the receiving end of a writ.
Does that mean that we get to send some huge bloke to gatecrash Newcastle's press conference to serve a writ on Allardyce, much like Jordan attempted to do when Dowie was appointed?!
Lovely image, but they'd have to get the court case sorted unusually pronto...

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Post by trotter58 » Tue May 08, 2007 5:21 pm

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trotter58 wrote:
warthog wrote:I suspect Garty and Fat Freddy will be watching the Simon Jordan v Ian Dowie case which is to be heard in summer. If Dowie loses then you can bet that Sam will be on the receiving end of a writ.
Does that mean that we get to send some huge bloke to gatecrash Newcastle's press conference to serve a writ on Allardyce, much like Jordan attempted to do when Dowie was appointed?!
Lovely image, but they'd have to get the court case sorted unusually pronto...
I just remember the live news conference on Sky being interrupted whilst a fight broke out between the bloke attempting to serve the writ and the Charlton staff attempting to wrestle him out of the door! All you could hear was the bloke bellowing 'Get off me! I'm here to serve a writ on Iain Dowie'! Personally i think we should send Lofty the Lion to do the job.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue May 08, 2007 5:27 pm

trotter58 wrote:
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trotter58 wrote:
warthog wrote:I suspect Garty and Fat Freddy will be watching the Simon Jordan v Ian Dowie case which is to be heard in summer. If Dowie loses then you can bet that Sam will be on the receiving end of a writ.
Does that mean that we get to send some huge bloke to gatecrash Newcastle's press conference to serve a writ on Allardyce, much like Jordan attempted to do when Dowie was appointed?!
Lovely image, but they'd have to get the court case sorted unusually pronto...
I just remember the live news conference on Sky being interrupted whilst a fight broke out between the bloke attempting to serve the writ and the Charlton staff attempting to wrestle him out of the door! All you could hear was the bloke bellowing 'Get off me! I'm here to serve a writ on Iain Dowie'! Personally i think we should send Lofty the Lion to do the job.
Oh aye - I recall the amusement, we gathered round the office telly to watch it - I'm just saying that if the court case is this summer (and given the lack of media coverage not just yet either), it would have to be resolved immediately in Jordan's favour for such an occurence to take place at Allardyce's unveiling.

Nowt to stop it happening at a later press conference, though... :mrgreen:

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Post by warthog » Tue May 08, 2007 5:31 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
trotter58 wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
trotter58 wrote:
warthog wrote:I suspect Garty and Fat Freddy will be watching the Simon Jordan v Ian Dowie case which is to be heard in summer. If Dowie loses then you can bet that Sam will be on the receiving end of a writ.
Does that mean that we get to send some huge bloke to gatecrash Newcastle's press conference to serve a writ on Allardyce, much like Jordan attempted to do when Dowie was appointed?!
Lovely image, but they'd have to get the court case sorted unusually pronto...
I just remember the live news conference on Sky being interrupted whilst a fight broke out between the bloke attempting to serve the writ and the Charlton staff attempting to wrestle him out of the door! All you could hear was the bloke bellowing 'Get off me! I'm here to serve a writ on Iain Dowie'! Personally i think we should send Lofty the Lion to do the job.
Oh aye - I recall the amusement, we gathered round the office telly to watch it - I'm just saying that if the court case is this summer (and given the lack of media coverage not just yet either), it would have to be resolved immediately in Jordan's favour for such an occurence to take place at Allardyce's unveiling.

Nowt to stop it happening at a later press conference, though... :mrgreen:
He could be door stepped prior to the first day of the season. The Lofty the Lion idea sounds good.

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Post by officer_dibble » Tue May 08, 2007 6:24 pm

hmmmmm well whatever I was fooled

still think he'll end up there mind

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Post by trotter58 » Tue May 08, 2007 7:15 pm

officer_dibble wrote:hmmmmm well whatever I was fooled

still think he'll end up there mind
It's a done deal, despite what certain people on this forum would have you believe.
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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Tue May 08, 2007 7:18 pm

what are the chances of PG turning up tanned at BSA's unveiling with a writ waving it about....

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Post by H. Pedersen » Tue May 08, 2007 7:22 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:And fwiw, I don't blame him for clearing off and leaving the apathetic Bolton public behind

Good luck to him
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Do you think the alleged apathy of the Bolton public might have something to do with the apathy of the manager himself?

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Post by Bench » Tue May 08, 2007 7:42 pm

trotter58 wrote:
officer_dibble wrote:hmmmmm well whatever I was fooled

still think he'll end up there mind
It's a done deal, despite what certain people on this forum would have you believe.
Hardly. 'Certain people' on this board have merely pointed out that nothing official has yet been confirmed.

He may end up at Newcastle. 'Officially' he isn't. Yet anyway.
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