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Post by Zulus Thousand of em » Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:45 pm

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Post by Zulus Thousand of em » Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:51 pm

Psalm 41 to you and me. set to music by Palestrina. Here's the first three lines - there's much, much more.

Sicut cervus desiderat ad fontes aquarum, ita desiderat anima mea ad te, Deus.
Sitivit anima mea ad Deum fortem vivum: quando veniam et apparebo ante faciem Dei?
Fuerunt mihi lacrymae meae panes die ac nocte, dum dicitur mihi quotidie: Ubi est Deus tuus?

Translates to:

As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God.
My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?
My tears have been my meat day and night, while they continually say unto me, Where is thy God?

Brought to you by Lieutenant Bromhead - a fine example of a classical education. 8)

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Post by Worthy4England » Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:02 pm

Because of where this thread has headed, there's a horrible part of my brain that has started repeating over and over again....

-bam; -bas, -bat, -barmus, -bartis, -bant

-amo, -amas, -amat, -amamus, -amatis, -amant

and to this day I never worked out what pluperfect was......

gratias ago polus ut est totus secundum mihi

I blame YOU enfieldwhite for starting this all off by mentioning the school motto in the first place :cry:

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:20 pm

Worthy4England wrote:Because of where this thread has headed, there's a horrible part of my brain that has started repeating over and over again....

-bam; -bas, -bat, -barmus, -bartis, -bant

-amo, -amas, -amat, -amamus, -amatis, -amant

and to this day I never worked out what pluperfect was......

gratias ago polus ut est totus secundum mihi

I blame YOU enfieldwhite for starting this all off by mentioning the school motto in the first place :cry:
Yiss, and I still can't remember what festinabimus translates to, and it's bugging me! :evil:
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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:26 pm

Zulus Thousand of em wrote:Psalm 41 to you and me. set to music by Palestrina. Here's the first three lines - there's much, much more.

Sicut cervus desiderat ad fontes aquarum, ita desiderat anima mea ad te, Deus.
Sitivit anima mea ad Deum fortem vivum: quando veniam et apparebo ante faciem Dei?
Fuerunt mihi lacrymae meae panes die ac nocte, dum dicitur mihi quotidie: Ubi est Deus tuus?

Translates to:

As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God.
My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?
My tears have been my meat day and night, while they continually say unto me, Where is thy God?

Brought to you by Lieutenant Bromhead - a fine example of a classical education. 8)

Pip, pip!
Gosh, we had it as Hymns Ancient & Modern # 310

As pants the hart for cooling streams
When heated in the chase,
So longs my soul, O God, for thee
And thy refreshing grace. etc etc. etc.
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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:36 pm

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Yiss, and I still can't remember what festinabimus translates to, and it's bugging me! :evil:
I think it means something like "Go quickly" although it has been a long time since my Latin days I fear.
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Post by Worthy4England » Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:43 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Yiss, and I still can't remember what festinabimus translates to, and it's bugging me! :evil:
I think it means something like "Go quickly" although it has been a long time since my Latin days I fear.
future tense acitve

Hasten, hurry....as in Campo festinabimus

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Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:49 pm

communistworkethic wrote:and school "hymn"...

Jerusalem
And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?

And did the Countenance Divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among these dark Satanic Mills?

Bring me my Bow of burning gold:
Bring me my Arrows of desire:
Bring me my Spear: O clouds unfold?
Bring me my Chariot of fire.

I will not cease from Mental Fight,
Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green & pleasant Land.
Being Catholics, we weren't allowed in assembly at Bolton Technical (now Bolton University since 1982). Our parish priest's decision, not the school's. I used to stand outside and think "Jerusalem" was the finest and most beautiful hymn I ever heard. All these years later I still do, along with "Adesde Fidelis" of course.
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Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:05 pm

The University of Bolton crest and motto. What a fine and fitting crest it is(complete with elephant of course. :mrgreen: ) "Sapientia Supera Moras" .....Wisdom overcomes difficulty.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:06 pm

Zulus Thousand of em wrote:Image

There you go!
You were a member of the Secret Service, Zulu? :shock:
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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:14 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:The University of Bolton crest and motto. What a fine and fitting crest it is(complete with elephant of course. :mrgreen: ) "Sapientia Supera Moras" .....Wisdom overcomes difficulty.

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That would be Sapientia Superat Moras, also the motto of the Cambridge 1st Royal Assault-Recon Infantry Division.
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Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:24 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:The University of Bolton crest and motto. What a fine and fitting crest it is(complete with elephant of course. :mrgreen: ) "Sapientia Supera Moras" .....Wisdom overcomes difficulty.

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That would be Sapientia Superat Moras, also the motto of the Cambridge 1st Royal Assault-Recon Infantry Division.
Aye, that's what it says on the tin (bottom). I missed a T off typing too fast..
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:47 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Yiss, and I still can't remember what festinabimus translates to, and it's bugging me! :evil:
I think it means something like "Go quickly" although it has been a long time since my Latin days I fear.
Ah. That makes sense. It appeared on the official guff when I was expelled! :oops:
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Post by enfieldwhite » Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:10 pm

Worthy4England wrote:Because of where this thread has headed, there's a horrible part of my brain that has started repeating over and over again....

-bam; -bas, -bat, -barmus, -bartis, -bant

-amo, -amas, -amat, -amamus, -amatis, -amant

and to this day I never worked out what pluperfect was......

gratias ago polus ut est totus secundum mihi

I blame YOU enfieldwhite for starting this all off by mentioning the school motto in the first place :cry:
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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:35 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
and to this day I never worked out what pluperfect was......

gratias ago polus ut est totus secundum mihi
Actually it is not too difficult, Worthy, since we have it in English. It distinguishes two past events as to the time they occurred, the pluperfect occurring before the perfect. In the sentence "The headmaster, on discovering Bruce had cheated, has expelled him shouting "Festinabimus." Thus the expulsion was a past event and the cheating even further back in time. The pluperfect usually puts 'had' before the verb and the perfect 'has/have'.

Now it is all no longer behind you. :wink:
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Post by Zulus Thousand of em » Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:55 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Zulus Thousand of em wrote:Image

There you go!
You were a member of the Secret Service, Zulu? :shock:
Indeed, a shy Thornleigh boy, TD.
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Post by Worthy4England » Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:59 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
and to this day I never worked out what pluperfect was......

gratias ago polus ut est totus secundum mihi
Actually it is not too difficult, Worthy, since we have it in English. It distinguishes two past events as to the time they occurred, the pluperfect occurring before the perfect. In the sentence "The headmaster, on discovering Bruce had cheated, has expelled him shouting "Festinabimus." Thus the expulsion was a past event and the cheating even further back in time. The pluperfect usually puts 'had' before the verb and the perfect 'has/have'.

Now it is all no longer behind you. :wink:
:mrgreen: bah - I can do it in English...it's just the thought of all those lines I got that create the mental barrier when Latin is concerned ;-)

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Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:13 pm

Zulus Thousand of em wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
Zulus Thousand of em wrote:Image

There you go!
You were a member of the Secret Service, Zulu? :shock:
Indeed, a shy Thornleigh boy, TD.
Didn't they just have the deer head on the badge without all that other stuff though? Looks like page one of a freemason manual. :wink:
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Post by enfieldwhite » Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:42 am

The Stag's Head was on the Blazer pocket, TD.
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Post by communistworkethic » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:13 am

Worthy4England wrote:Because of where this thread has headed, there's a horrible part of my brain that has started repeating over and over again....

-bam; -bas, -bat, -barmus, -bartis, -bant

-amo, -amas, -amat, -amamus, -amatis, -amant

and to this day I never worked out what pluperfect was......

gratias ago polus ut est totus secundum mihi

I blame YOU enfieldwhite for starting this all off by mentioning the school motto in the first place :cry:
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