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Post by HSIBWFC » Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:45 pm

Whatever happened to class publications 'white love' and'tripe and trotters' and before them the 'normid nomad' ?
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Post by bobby5 » Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:50 pm

Hi mate. Might want to have a look at this thread. :)

http://www.the-wanderer.co.uk/boards/vi ... hp?t=18469
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Post by HSIBWFC » Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:53 pm

bobby5 wrote:Hi mate. Might want to have a look at this thread. :)

http://www.the-wanderer.co.uk/boards/vi ... hp?t=18469
feck me did a search and everything before i posted that. But can anyone say what happened as to why they disappeared ?
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Post by boltonboris » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:58 am

Last I heard is that BWFC wouldn't let us sell them near the ground

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Post by bobby5 » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:03 am

boltonboris wrote:Last I heard is that BWFC wouldn't let us sell them near the ground
If that's true then it's pathetic. :(
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Post by mofgimmers » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:46 am

Also, it's worth bearing in mind that forums, blogs and the like have pretty much put fanzines to rest.

It's also worth pointing out that this very site has put two paper fanzines out, which we gave away for free outside the ground.

Sadly, it's just too pricey to do regularly. :(
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:14 pm

Thanks for the interest. I used to co-edit TnT, as did Keeeeebaaaab (after me, not at the same time).

First, a technical point - it is, strictly speaking, illegal to sell merchandise (under which fanzines arguably fall, although we argued it was distribution of literature) without permission on private ground - and there's a lot more of that at Middlebrook. At Burnden we were fine - Manny Road, Croft Lane, behind the Paddock etc; harder at the new place, we had to go more distant.

Producing a fanzine takes a heck of a lot of time and effort, not to mention money up front, money you only make back if you sell all the copies; a rainy night can cost you hundreds. But really it's about the time and effort involved, which is fine when you're on the dole (as I was) but a hell of a lot harder when you've got a full-time job (a fate which befell KB's successor). The Normid Nomad editor is on here too - Coffeymagic.

And as Mof perceptively points out, much of the purpose of fanzines is now served by the internet. When I spent 18 months editing TnT in the mid-'90s there wasn't really much internet to speak of; the only news you got about BWFC was the BEN (as was), the MEN (if you were exotic), a teletext page and pub gossip. Now, there's minute-by-minute analyses, well-written articles about the past, present and future of the club, genuinely hilarious badinage, heartbreakingly accurate insights – and that's just on T-W. Which is why I joined up here. I hope you like it as much as I do.

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Post by Harry Genshaw » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:20 pm

Does anyone on here know what happened with the chap (Howard?) who edited White Love/ C'mon feel the Wanderers? There was some piece in a newspaper that he was sueing some Utd fans that he alluded to in the last ever issue, but I never heard anything more. Just wonderin like..
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Post by William the White » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:43 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:Does anyone on here know what happened with the chap (Howard?) who edited White Love/ C'mon feel the Wanderers? There was some piece in a newspaper that he was sueing some Utd fans that he alluded to in the last ever issue, but I never heard anything more. Just wonderin like..
Wasn't it a Howard somebody that edited Here We Go Again - which I liked a lot...?

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:47 am

Howard Worgan edited HWGA until the aforementioned work-time pressures made him hang up his typewriter. At that point, half the writers set up Come on Feel the Wanderers (which after a season became White Love) and half set up Tripe 'n' Trotters.

I think Howard came on here a few months back. Or I may have dreamed it, in a spectacularly boring dream.

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Post by HSIBWFC » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:23 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Thanks for the interest. I used to co-edit TnT, as did Keeeeebaaaab (after me, not at the same time).

First, a technical point - it is, strictly speaking, illegal to sell merchandise (under which fanzines arguably fall, although we argued it was distribution of literature) without permission on private ground - and there's a lot more of that at Middlebrook. At Burnden we were fine - Manny Road, Croft Lane, behind the Paddock etc; harder at the new place, we had to go more distant.

Producing a fanzine takes a heck of a lot of time and effort, not to mention money up front, money you only make back if you sell all the copies; a rainy night can cost you hundreds. But really it's about the time and effort involved, which is fine when you're on the dole (as I was) but a hell of a lot harder when you've got a full-time job (a fate which befell KB's successor). The Normid Nomad editor is on here too - Coffeymagic.

And as Mof perceptively points out, much of the purpose of fanzines is now served by the internet. When I spent 18 months editing TnT in the mid-'90s there wasn't really much internet to speak of; the only news you got about BWFC was the BEN (as was), the MEN (if you were exotic), a teletext page and pub gossip. Now, there's minute-by-minute analyses, well-written articles about the past, present and future of the club, genuinely hilarious badinage, heartbreakingly accurate insights – and that's just on T-W. Which is why I joined up here. I hope you like it as much as I do.
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Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:32 pm

HSIBWFC wrote:Whatever happened to class publications 'white love' and'tripe and trotters' and before them the 'normid nomad' ?
If you look on the Home page you'll find you can download the last TW Fanzine (if you haven't already seen it, that is)
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Post by Traf » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:57 am

I've quite a few issues of White Love and HWGA knocking around somewhere: probably in the loft!

I might dig them out and share a few trips down Memory Lane.
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Post by Zulus Thousand of em » Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:55 pm

Traf wrote:I've quite a few issues of White Love and HWGA knocking around somewhere: probably in the loft!

I might dig them out and share a few trips down Memory Lane.
That would be great Traf. I would enjoy that.
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Re: fanzines

Post by HSIBWFC » Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:45 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
HSIBWFC wrote:Whatever happened to class publications 'white love' and'tripe and trotters' and before them the 'normid nomad' ?
If you look on the Home page you'll find you can download the last TW Fanzine (if you haven't already seen it, that is)
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