Joey O Brien

[Bruce Rioja]

The number of games he's actually played in, I'm surprised many can actually remember whether he's good bad or indifferent.

Would you similarly apply that logic then to Laville, Candella, Hierro etc?

[TANGODANCER]

The number of games he's actually played in, I'm surprised many can actually remember whether he's good bad or indifferent.

Would you similarly apply that logic then to Laville, Candella, Hierro etc?

Not at all. I certainly wouldn't be remembering him as being as good as any of them. They were all pretty short term players with us. Laville was very good before his injury but never really came back, Candela was very good but didn't want to stay and Hierro, a magnificent player, retired from football after his spell with us. None of them really relate to J.O.B's continuous injury spells or long career with us. Bish claimed he's played fifty games for us, but that's over seven years. That was my point.

[thebish]

The number of games he's actually played in, I'm surprised many can actually remember whether he's good bad or indifferent.

Would you similarly apply that logic then to Laville, Candella, Hierro etc?

Not at all. I certainly wouldn't be remembering him as being as good as any of them. They were all pretty short term players with us. Laville was very good before his injury but never really came back, Candela was very good but didn't want to stay and Hierro, a magnificent player, retired from football after his spell with us. None of them really relate to J.O.B's continuous injury spells or long career with us. Bish claimed he's played fifty games for us, but that's over seven years. That was my point.

would you be surprised to find out that Joeyo played FIVE TIMES as many games for us as Candela?

[boltonboris]

I wouldn't say that's anything to be proud of, considering Candela was with us for half a season and O'Brien made his first team debut 6 years ago and has only just been released

[Lofthouse Lower]

You're talking to thebish though boris, so just be careful of anything that can be taken completely literally

[thebish]

I wouldn't say that's anything to be proud of, considering Candela was with us for half a season and O'Brien made his first team debut 6 years ago and has only just been released

not a matter of pride.. just that I think 50 games over 7 seasons is plenty of evidence for any one of us to have formed an opinion - good or ill - of O'Brien. TD was suggesting that joey hadn't played enough for any of us to have an opinion... perhaps you agree with Tango?

[boltonboris]

Some people may.. Though I am of the opinion that he is/was shit

[thebish]

Some people may.. Though I am of the opinion that he is/was shit

I don't think he was good enough to earn a new contract... and I also think you and I have had plenty of evidence to come to that opinion (which was where I disagreed with Tango). I'm sorry to have to break the news to you - but it appears you and I are pretty much in agreement

[boltonboris]

I don't agree

[Bruce Rioja]

The number of games he's actually played in, I'm surprised many can actually remember whether he's good bad or indifferent.

Would you similarly apply that logic then to Laville, Candella, Hierro etc?

Not at all. I certainly wouldn't be remembering him as being as good as any of them. They were all pretty short term players with us. Laville was very good before his injury but never really came back, Candela was very good but didn't want to stay and Hierro, a magnificent player, retired from football after his spell with us. None of them really relate to J.O.B's continuous injury spells or long career with us. Bish claimed he's played fifty games for us, but that's over seven years. That was my point.

You missed my point Tango. You claim that given how few games O'Brien played you're surprised that anyone could have formed an opinion. The players I mentioned played even fewer games for us, therefore, my question was as to whether you'd apply that same logic (ie. being unable to form an opinion one way or t'other) and not as to whether or not O'Brien was as good as any of them. Given that in your answer you give an opinion on all three then the actual answer is 'clearly not'.

[Lofthouse Lower]

Bruce strikes again

[enrdentw]

When I worked in Sheffield I remember a good few Wednesday fans claiming he was the best player they have ever had on loan.

Never impressed me in the 1st team for Bolton.

[Choppers]

Always thought he had huge potential, destroyed by injury.

If he hadn't been so injured, all the time, I think he'd have been a superb premiership midfielder.

Also, Big Sam = LOL.

Signings so far for West Ham:

Kevin Nolan, Ex Bolton Captain.
Abdoulaye Faye, Ex Bolton.
Eidur Gudjohnssen, Ex Bolton.
Matt Taylor, Ex Bolton.
Joey O'Brien, Ex Bolton.

Seriously Sam, why did you leave mate?

[Lofthouse Lower]

FAO of Choppers - Eidur signed for AEK Athens

[boltonboris]

All the players you mentioned there, will be very good signings for West Ham..

[Prufrock]

Faye and Nolan will be excellent signings. JOB won't be fit, but if he is he'll be a very solid signing, they haven't signed Eidur, and Matt Taylor??

[ohjimmyjimmy]

FAO of Choppers - Eidur signed for AEK Athens

Doesn't the 'O' on FAO stand for 'of' anyway?

Maybe the O in O'Brien does too...?

[Lofthouse Lower]

oh dear jimmy

[Bruce Rioja]

FAO of Choppers - Eidur signed for AEK Athens

Doesn't the 'O' on FAO stand for 'of' anyway?

I did notice that particular spot of tautology, missen! No neeeeeeeeeeed

[Lofthouse Lower]

It was intentional you knobs

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