Twitching Harry

[Annoyed Grunt]

Knew he would get away with it. Send him down and dock Spurs 20 points i say!

They'd still finish above you

I'm gonna come up there and kick your arse in a moment Colin! Cheeky beggar!

Hahaha, bring it

You're scared - aren't ya?!

[Annoyed Grunt]

If you're a selling club and you're job as a manager is to get the best out of the team and also make a profit on player sales, I'd say it's alright a manager getting a 'bonus' of commission on player profits.

IMHO OC, LOLZ

yeah - i CAN see the logic in incentivising a manager to bring in talent and sell on at a profit - it's how many clubs survive.. but it does raise other questions...

1. does the manager then LOSE if you sell at a loss?
2. how much of the actual discovery of new talent does the manager do - is it not the scouts? are they similarly incentivised/
3. are there not conceivably situations where it sets up a conflict of interest - where it is in the manager's interest to sell while a player is at peak value, but not the club's?[/quote]

Isn't that what was said about Holloway and Charlie Adam?

[Gooner Girl]

I'm gonna come up there and kick your arse in a moment Colin! Cheeky beggar!

Hahaha, bring it

You're scared - aren't ya?!

Nervous laughter?!

I'm stronger then i look!

[boltonboris]

If you're a selling club and you're job as a manager is to get the best out of the team and also make a profit on player sales, I'd say it's alright a manager getting a 'bonus' of commission on player profits.

IMHO OC, LOLZ

yeah - i CAN see the logic in incentivising a manager to bring in talent and sell on at a profit - it's how many clubs survive.. but it does raise other questions...

1. does the manager then LOSE if you sell at a loss? - No, that'd be like having your wages docked if you don't reach target. You just won't get your 'bonus'
2. how much of the actual discovery of new talent does the manager do - is it not the scouts? are they similarly incentivised - Possibly.. That may have come out.. Or not..3. are there not conceivably situations where it sets up a conflict of interest - where it is in the manager's interest to sell while a player is at peak value, but not the club's? - I was thinking that myself. Forcing a sale, isn't illegal I'd imagine. But it's not exactly best practice either

[BWFC_Insane]

I think giving a manager a "% of sell ons" as a bonus is inherently wrong.

Give them a % of profits, that reflects the overall success, or otherwise of the company. Give them a bonus based on league position if you want, or trophies etc.

But bonus for selling players at profit is open to all sorts of problems and conflicts of interest....

[bobo the clown]

I think giving a manager a "% of sell ons" as a bonus is inherently wrong.

Give them a % of profits, that reflects the overall success, or otherwise of the company. Give them a bonus based on league position if you want, or trophies etc.

But bonus for selling players at profit is open to all sorts of problems and conflicts of interest....

Whether or not, if you get that bonus it is income. Income means tax.

A pure gift, which this was not, is not taxable.

A pure gift doesn not require a dedicated bank account set up anonymously in a tax-haven.

[thebish]

I think giving a manager a "% of sell ons" as a bonus is inherently wrong.

Give them a % of profits, that reflects the overall success, or otherwise of the company. Give them a bonus based on league position if you want, or trophies etc.

But bonus for selling players at profit is open to all sorts of problems and conflicts of interest....

Whether or not, if you get that bonus it is income. Income means tax.

A pure gift, which this was not, is not taxable.

A pure gift doesn not require a dedicated bank account set up anonymously in a tax-haven.

we don't need to speculate anyway, Harry himself said it was not a gift - but a bonus for the sale of Peter Crouch.

[BWFC_Insane]

I think giving a manager a "% of sell ons" as a bonus is inherently wrong.

Give them a % of profits, that reflects the overall success, or otherwise of the company. Give them a bonus based on league position if you want, or trophies etc.

But bonus for selling players at profit is open to all sorts of problems and conflicts of interest....

Whether or not, if you get that bonus it is income. Income means tax.

A pure gift, which this was not, is not taxable.

A pure gift doesn not require a dedicated bank account set up anonymously in a tax-haven.

we don't need to speculate anyway, Harry himself said it was not a gift - but a bonus for the sale of Peter Crouch.

Yeah but in court he claimed he'd lied to the NoTW about that and it was in fact a gift...

[bobo the clown]

So, did he lie to the NotW or lie that he'd lie'd.

Either way he's a liar.

Just that one lie would get him jailed, the other wouldn't ... one he had years of legal advice to prepare, the other would have been instant. This is a self admittedly dim man, of course.

So which lie would be more realistic ?

Which would he have had more reason to make ?

Oooooh, decisions, decisions.

[thebish]

I still think that to have your defense rest on your insistence that you lied SHOULD be shaky ground...

[jaffka]

Regardless of what our personal thoughts of this decision it is best to use caution when posting your views.

They are innocent men...

These are men who have been found "not guilty".

It is the OJ defence ... if you're famous and have enough dosh you will find it easier to get an acquital. They are famous & have enough dosh .... & they've been acquited.

Big fckg surprise.

Another nail in the coffin of the jury system I fear.

Have to say that I agree with most of what you say and I am disappointed in the decision reached.

However not guilty = innocent.

[Worthy4England]

So if it was a gift, is it not over the CGT threshold? I'm still confused...

[Hoboh]

Who really cares TBH? Happy 'arry and Milo are only the same as the rest of the "wealthy mob" who can afford the teams of slime ball "out for big bucks" Lawyers and accountants.
This was almost as stupid as putting Ken Dodd on trial in front of a jury of scousers for not paying tax a few years ago

[Bruce Rioja]

Apparently his dog's just put £5K on him to become the next England manager