Ashley Cole gets Mascherano sent off.

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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:16 pm

blurred wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:So let me get this straight: he should have been carded earlier; he was carded for dissent; his multiple "f*ck off"s to the ref were irrelevant; you think in some way you've been hard done to.

Sorry blurred mate, but I give up. The conversation's insane.
If he'd been carded for telling the ref to feck off it'd've been entirely valid and nobody could complain. What he did get booked for was a joke, and if you book someone for that then you're issuing 10 cards a game up and down the country for dissent, which doesn't happen.

His multiple 'feck offs' were irrelevant, because there's no such thing as persistent dissent, unlike persistent infringement of the laws (which people are regularly carded for when they've made 3/4 fouls, none of which were severe enough to warrant a card, but you see the ref point to different areas of the pitch to indicate that he's being done for persistent infringement).

Should he have gone? Quite probably, yes (depending on whether he can use the 'Rooney' defence of screaming obscenities at referees with no punishment). Should he have gone for what he eventually got his second card for? No. That's the problem.
If it was all irrelevant, how come he admitted the charge (and thus accepted that he was guilty)? Get over it. The guy owned up, so it's a fair cop.

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Post by communistworkethic » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:19 pm

could blurred please identify which part of Law 12 "persistent fouling" appears in?



I'll save him the time, it doesn't. Law 12, "Fouls and misconduct" states that one of the 7 "cautionable offences" is ... "persistent infringement of the laws of the game". Now given "dissent" is an infringement then "persistent dissent" is certainly bookable with the "laws of the game".
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