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Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:55 am
by BWFC_Insane
thebish wrote:I don't remember seeing a bloke so obviously delighted and excited about being england manager for a long time! COY BigSam!!
And some parts of the media are already "after him". Give him a chance I say.
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:53 am
by Bruce Rioja
Someone's sneaked in and taken a piccy of BSA's tactic board
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:32 pm
by bobo the clown
^^ a lesson we could all benefit from.
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:05 pm
by BWFC_Insane
Well, he's landed himself in bother again...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09 ... -for-sale/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:26 am
by Prufrock
Shows him to be a bit of a gobshite (hold the front page) but can't see what he is actually supposed to have done wrong.
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:22 am
by BWFC_Insane
Prufrock wrote:Shows him to be a bit of a gobshite (hold the front page) but can't see what he is actually supposed to have done wrong.
Negotiated a fee to advise people on how to 'bend the rules' of his employers?
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:22 am
by Gary the Enfield
BWFC_Insane wrote:Prufrock wrote:Shows him to be a bit of a gobshite (hold the front page) but can't see what he is actually supposed to have done wrong.
Negotiated a fee to advise people on how to 'bend the rules' of his employers?
Not from the video they've shown so far. Pointed the finger at a couple of people and said 'there are ways around it still' but that's all. Said " no, no you can't say that"when an 'agent' questions him about payments to managers and CEOs.
They'll get him. Whichever way they'll get him.
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:12 am
by Prufrock
Exactly, spot the weasley conjunction:
"Sam Allardyce used his position as England manager to negotiate a £400,000 deal and offered advice to businessmen on how to “get around” FA rules on player transfers, The Telegraph can disclose."
The advice on how to get around the rules on 3rd party ownership being advice seemingly on how to do it completely within the rules!
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:27 am
by BWFC_Insane
Aye I don't think he's done anything illegal or rule breaking. But seeking payment from guys you are advising as to how to break your current employers' rules isn't a good look. Hopefully it blows over.
As I said before when he got the job though, the press will be after him all the time. Has to be smarter than this.
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:33 am
by Bruce Rioja
BWFC_Insane wrote:Aye I don't think he's done anything illegal or rule breaking. But seeking payment from guys you are advising as to how to break your current employers' rules isn't a good look. Hopefully it blows over.
As I said before when he got the job though, the press will be after him all the time. Has to be smarter than this.
From what I saw this morning this seems much ado about nowt. However, my concern is that this is merely the Telegraph's opening gambit. Let's not forget that Allardyce is a very greedy man who likes a scoop and is no stranger to giving it the big one. Loose talk costs jobs.
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:43 am
by boltonboris
L'equipe headline of "Corruption" has the Journo's spaffing themselves silly
For me, he's accepted money to talk to people about football. That's common - they've asked him some leading questions and he;'s been silly enough to listen and give snippets. He's not don a lot wrong and the FA Should show his some support here. A proper witch hunt
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:04 am
by BWFC_Insane
I hope he keeps the job.
One thing I'd say though is that outside of football, if someone was doing similar to this they'd not keep their job in all likelihood.
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:06 pm
by boltonboris
In what other profession would you have this 'opportunity'? I'd say only politics and you'd be right there
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:12 pm
by BWFC_Insane
boltonboris wrote:In what other profession would you have this 'opportunity'? I'd say only politics and you'd be right there
Dunno. Probably plenty. Say you worked for HMRC and went to meet some businessmen who were prepared to pay you for some keynotes and discussed with them strategies for avoiding tax?
I mean again, I think he should keep his job. He's not really said much, at least from what's been shown. However, it was pretty stupid. If he got sacked he couldn't really blame anyone but himself.
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:16 pm
by boltonboris
BWFC_Insane wrote:boltonboris wrote:In what other profession would you have this 'opportunity'? I'd say only politics and you'd be right there
Dunno. Probably plenty. Say you worked for HMRC and went to meet some businessmen who were prepared to pay you for some keynotes and discussed with them strategies for avoiding tax?
He'd get a knighthood!
I mean again, I think he should keep his job. He's not really said much, at least from what's been shown. However, it was pretty stupid. If he got sacked he couldn't really blame anyone but himself.
They'll only show the absolute worst of it, for maximum effect
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:19 pm
by Hoboh
He's a fcuking idiot!
If £3 million pa plus add on's is not enough then he's a greedy nice person who will get what he deserves if he carries on like this.
Stick to the job Sam.
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:16 pm
by BWFC_Insane
Is this the best they've got?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09 ... t-busines/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
He calls HMRC the most corrupt business in Britain. Hardly shocking.
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:28 pm
by BWFC_Insane
Listening to a BBC guy say the issue is only surrounding the 3rd party ownership advice he appeared to be giving. Essentially someone representing the FA has been privately offering advice as to how to circumvent FA rules.
I think that is the issue here, and when you really think about it, unless the further video evidence shows this in a different light to what has been reported, it seems very plausible that the FA may feel forced to sack him.
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:38 pm
by Bijou Bob
I'm rather disappointed that a bloke who was caught up once before in an undercover reporting sting, has been stupid enough to let it happen again. What's more, they've tried it with every previous manager going back to SGE and beyond. How thick or greedy do you have to be not to have your guard up?!
Re: Allardyces dream job...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:40 pm
by BWFC_Insane
Bijou Bob wrote:I'm rather disappointed that a bloke who was caught up once before in an undercover reporting sting, has been stupid enough to let it happen again. What's more, they've tried it with every previous manager going back to SGE and beyond. How thick or greedy do you have to be not to have your guard up?!
Yeah this is what I said when he got the job, that the press would be out to get him. People like Sam always think they can handle the press, but it becomes totally different when you are the England manager.
He's fallen at the first hurdle. And seems they've exposed his main weakness, greed.