Hillsborough piece in The Observer on Sunday

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

The recent Football Focus programme is moving and a good insight for those of us too young to remember.

http://rawk.impulsed.net/20090411_Footb ... ersary.wmv

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Jacqui Smith has asked SYP to release the files 10 years early.

A positive step, but I wonder how much information has conveniently been 'lost'. Still, let's hope they get on with it and we'll see what new stuff emerges.

And if it paints Liverpool in a poor light..

Jesus, can you imagine

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Jacqui Smith has asked SYP to release the files 10 years early.

A positive step, but I wonder how much information has conveniently been 'lost'. Still, let's hope they get on with it and we'll see what new stuff emerges.

And if it paints Liverpool in a poor light..

Jesus, can you imagine

If it's full, frank, honest and factual then I don't care.

I can't say I hold out much hope, though, given that witness statements to the inquiry were altered, CCTV tapes went missing from the control room at Hillsborough and the senior officer at the scene was a bare-faced liar.

Still, we shall see.

[Bruce Rioja]

I can't say I hold out much hope, though, given that witness statements to the inquiry were altered, CCTV tapes went missing from the control room at Hillsborough and the senior officer at the scene was a bare-faced liar.

You can, of course, back these potentially libellous claims up can't you, Blurred?

[jaffka]

I can't say I hold out much hope, though, given that witness statements to the inquiry were altered, CCTV tapes went missing from the control room at Hillsborough and the senior officer at the scene was a bare-faced liar.

You can, of course, back these potentially libellous claims up can't you, Blurred?

Getting the excuses in already in case the report shows Liverpool in a bad light.

[mofgimmers]

Well, Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield admitted that he had lied about certain statements regarding the causes of the disaster (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/788990.stm). Norman Bettison has been accused of manipulating evidence as well.

[Bruce Rioja]

Well, Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield admitted that he had lied about certain statements regarding the causes of the disaster (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/788990.stm). Norman Bettison has been accused of manipulating evidence as well.

Accused of? Oh well string the feck* up then.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I can't say I hold out much hope, though, given that witness statements to the inquiry were altered, CCTV tapes went missing from the control room at Hillsborough and the senior officer at the scene was a bare-faced liar.

You can, of course, back these potentially libellous claims up can't you, Blurred?

I'm afraid, Bruce, that all of those are verifiable fact.

[mofgimmers]

I'm presuming that's what Blurred was talking about (in part). Of course, I'm not amazingly well read on it, but again, I'm a Wanderers fan, so I don't think I'll be expected to.

That said, there's a lot that doesn't add up about the day. Conspiracy? We'll have to wait and see.

[Bruce Rioja]

I can't say I hold out much hope, though, given that witness statements to the inquiry were altered, CCTV tapes went missing from the control room at Hillsborough and the senior officer at the scene was a bare-faced liar.

You can, of course, back these potentially libellous claims up can't you, Blurred?

I'm afraid, Bruce, that all of those are verifiable fact.

No worries. I was just worried that a non BWFC fan with a jaundiced view might be putting our site at risk.

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Nope, I put fact on these pages when it comes to Hillsborough and what happened.

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Oh lord, heads down

The shits hitting the fan

[superjohnmcginlay]

?

[Verbal]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 63,00.html

Home Secretary Alan Johnson has agreed to release previously unseen documents relating to the 1989 Hillsborough disaster.

Johnson told the mothers of three of the 96 victims of his decision at a face-to-face meeting in London on Tuesday.

The release of the documents, in cooperation with South Yorkshire Police, will be co-ordinated by The Hillsborough Independent Panel, which is to be set up in the coming weeks.

The panel could start sifting through the paperwork as early as September.

The Home Office said the documents would be made available to the families before they are made public because they many contain sensitive and personal information about the last minutes of the victims' lives.

"Hillsborough was a terrible tragedy and the Government is committed to full disclosure of information held centrally and by local agencies in order to help provide a permanent record of documentation relating to the tragedy," a Home Office spokesman said.
Sensitive

"This will be done in close co-operation with South Yorkshire Police.

"The Home Secretary, together with Health Secretary Andy Burnham and justice minister Michael Wills, have had a useful and productive meeting with the Hillsborough Family Support Group to explore options that will enable them to have access to all relevant papers.

"The Government's intention is to appoint an independent panel, 'The Hillsborough Independent Panel', to oversee release of this information.

"Disclosure will take into account the wishes of the families to protect sensitive and personal information about the victims.

"With this in mind, the Government will seek to ensure that representatives of the Hillsborough families will have prior disclosure of documents on an agreed timescale before they are made more widely available.

"The Government will continue to work with the families to complete this work."

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Lets hope the families keep their traps shut until all the documents are released

More likely we get every little titbit painting the authorities in a poor light and LFC and all things red on the road to saintdom

And to think United get accused of milking Munich

Who is paying for this independent panel?

[Hoboh]

Lets hope the families keep their traps shut until all the documents are released

More likely we get every little titbit painting the authorities in a poor light and LFC and all things red on the road to saintdom

And to think United get accused of milking Munich

Who is paying for this independent panel?

You, me and every other tax payer in the name of justice!
Same as putting Sutcliffe, Brady and similar away for life at great expense after long expensive investigations and trails!
We pay the bills.
Although feeling sorry for those who lost loved ones, it's a terrible tragerdy, I want to know just what the hell they feel they will gain from this now? find some one guilty of neglect, sue them? imprison them? What? Ain't that an eye for an eye which I know does not sit well with some posters on here?
Tragardy, comemorate it, remember loved ones, stop looking for revenge

[William the White]

Lets hope the families keep their traps shut until all the documents are released

More likely we get every little titbit painting the authorities in a poor light and LFC and all things red on the road to saintdom

And to think United get accused of milking Munich

Who is paying for this independent panel?

You, me and every other tax payer in the name of justice!

Same as putting Sutcliffe, Brady and similar away for life at great expense after long expensive investigations and trails!
We pay the bills.
Although feeling sorry for those who lost loved ones, it's a terrible tragerdy, I want to know just what the hell they feel they will gain from this now? find some one guilty of neglect, sue them? imprison them? What? Ain't that an eye for an eye which I know does not sit well with some posters on here?
Tragardy, comemorate it, remember loved ones, stop looking for revenge

I think there's a lot of things tax payers' money is wasted on.

But justice isn't one of them.

And, in my view, that hasn't yet been seen to be done on Hillsborough. And what 'revenge' is implied by having, at last, access to documents? There have been, provably, as stated here, some dismal cover ups. Getting to the truth isn't revenge - it's the necessity for peace at heart.

[Hoboh]

Lets hope the families keep their traps shut until all the documents are released

More likely we get every little titbit painting the authorities in a poor light and LFC and all things red on the road to saintdom

And to think United get accused of milking Munich

Who is paying for this independent panel?

You, me and every other tax payer in the name of justice!

Same as putting Sutcliffe, Brady and similar away for life at great expense after long expensive investigations and trails!
We pay the bills.
Although feeling sorry for those who lost loved ones, it's a terrible tragerdy, I want to know just what the hell they feel they will gain from this now? find some one guilty of neglect, sue them? imprison them? What? Ain't that an eye for an eye which I know does not sit well with some posters on here?
Tragardy, comemorate it, remember loved ones, stop looking for revenge

I think there's a lot of things tax payers' money is wasted on.

But justice isn't one of them.

And, in my view, that hasn't yet been seen to be done on Hillsborough. And what 'revenge' is implied by having, at last, access to documents? There have been, provably, as stated here, some dismal cover ups. Getting to the truth isn't revenge - it's the necessity for peace at heart.

They want someone hung dried over about what happened, they just want evidence bit like the bloody McCanns and three quaters of a mill we've stumped up here in Police costs, I wish they'd get investigated properly! and justice done