Megson Watch

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Re: Megson Watch

Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:08 pm

Comedy Gold :lol:
If i remember right, the exact same happened at Forrest, he went there and he was gone before he had the chance to make any signings, his managerial style isn't for the short term! I think he likes to play to a system, have a influential captain who he can relate to, and have players that can play to a certain role and position, i think he's getting very frustrated at the squad selection he has at hand. Nothing is working and its building pressure on him so he's taking it out on the players (which is wrong) in your current situation you need someone who is going to get the team to huddle and work at this as a team, as i see it he isn't doing that, he's making it clear that it will be his team next season and why would the players respond to this?

He needs to push the vision to one side and get the players on his side. There is no doubt he is a very good manager, He didn't get West Brom promoted to the top division for the first time in 30 years and Built what he did at Bolton because he's a bad manager, he isn't a motivator (which is what you need atm) but if he can get through this season with the fans on his side going into next season iv got a feeling you'll enjoy the time under Megson, Is it to late to change his style of management? yes i think so for this situation, you have just got to hope you get through this part of the season without any damage (which i think you will do) if he's there in the summer (which will be disgusting if he's not) he will build the future of your club, i garauntee the first player he will look for is a captain (when Nolan was sold the first player he signed for us was Paul Robinson) one of the most passionate footballers iv ever seen and it really does rub of on the players. Then he will build a spine and then will finish the pieces.

Please don't push him out of the door before he's even started, it was the wrong time to appoint him when you did, he is a long term manager who likes to do things his way with structure, he's not a motivator but will get the best out of a team as a unit, unfortunately when he come to Shef Wednesday he didn't have a unit to work with.

I feel your frustration but good times are around the corner even if they seem so so dark now.

Iv always had a soft spot for Shef Wednesday and like Megson as a manager so i want the 2 too do well.

Good luck for the coming seasons.
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Sir Barmpot's got a bet on Megson or something, hasn't he?
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Re: Megson Watch

Post by Zulus Thousand of em » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:17 pm

Perhaps Sir Barmpot is Gary Megson! GULP!! :shock:
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Re: Megson Watch

Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:23 pm

Thats quite a frightening, yet plausible, thought.
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Re: Megson Watch

Post by Prufrock » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:23 pm

For all his faults Megson always seemed at least literate.
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Re: Megson Watch

Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:25 pm

Cunning disguise.

And he does get angry easily, and thinks everyone's getting at him....

You know, the more I look at it, the more I think Zulu's is on to something.
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Re: Megson Watch

Post by jaffka » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:29 pm

then its upto Worthy to out him...

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Re: Megson Watch

Post by officer_dibble » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:54 pm

He's right!

He isn't a motivator! One win from behind in two years?

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Re: Megson Watch

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:12 am

Zulus Thousand of em wrote:Yahoo Sports

Megson blasts poor Owls

Sheffield Wednesday manager Gary Megson was furious with his side's display after they were beaten 3-1 at home by Brentford.

"Goals from Michael Spillane"

I love a good slow motion car crash. :D


Sheffield Wednesday manager Gary Megson said, "How was I to know that Mickey Spillane would weave a plot so devious? I blame Mike Hammer, who has been world class private detective since 1947. How a club of our size can compete against that anyone only knows."

In his summing up of the crimes, Mike Hammer replied. "For crimes against football over a career spanning 30 years, there can be one and only one person without a clear alibi and with the clear motive of protecting one's self interest. Only you, Gary Megson committed the crimes: the 5 defensive midfielders; the lack of clean sheets; the large collection of fullbacks; the untrapped bag of cement; mediocre results compared to your net spend :-) , a complete lack of clean sheets and bugger all goals at the other end. No one else can be responsible for such pre-meditated crimes against those too innocent to notice or too stupid to keep paying their hard earned. Take him away Chief Inspector"

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Re: Megson Watch

Post by thebish » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:22 pm

Prufrock wrote:For all his faults Megson always seemed at least literate.
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Re: Megson Watch

Post by thebish » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:23 pm

they appointed him at the wrong time??

aye - somewhere during Megson's lifetime!!

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Re: Megson Watch

Post by officer_dibble » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:43 pm

thebish wrote:they appointed him at the wrong time??

aye - somewhere during Megson's lifetime!!
Should of waited till they couldn't drop any more! Blue Square league or something!

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Re: Megson Watch

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:56 pm

He'd find a way. Its a very tough league that one you know, a point at home is well earned.
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Re: Megson Watch

Post by Hoboh » Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:03 am

My sides are hurting with laughter its a good job I've got my corrset on!

Funny thing is though where are all the Megson lovers off this forum now? the ones who accused some of us about blinkers and how we were know nowts :conf: :mrgreen:

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Re: Megson Watch

Post by Lord Kangana » Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:08 am

I don't know hoboh, but someone needs to set that lot on Owlstalk straight. They keep quoting Sir Notrite's version of War and Peace and claiming its evidence that the majority of Wanderers fans didn't hate him and his very shit football.
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Re: Megson Watch

Post by bobo the clown » Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:43 am

Hoboh wrote:.... where are all the Megson lovers off this forum now? the ones who accused some of us about blinkers and how we were know nowts :conf: :mrgreen:
Well, I wasn't a Megson lover, but I was one who felt some fans never gave him a break and that this made matters worse than they needed to be.

I admired the bulk of his signings. I noted that most of our better players signed for him &/or signed contract extensons, so they .... those closest to him seemed to have time for him.

However, his character was shite and still is. His bullying, aggressive negativity is certain to get the worst from players, not the best.

His constant bleating once he was sacked is a disgrace.

Overall, with hindsight, I should have given up on him rather earlier than I did.
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Re: Megson Watch

Post by bristol_Wanderer3 » Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:26 am

Lord Kangana wrote:I don't know hoboh, but someone needs to set that lot on Owlstalk straight. They keep quoting Sir Notrite's version of War and Peace and claiming its evidence that the majority of Wanderers fans didn't hate him and his very shit football.
This.

It is cruel to give them such an olive branch, when the reality is that they have appointed someone who just doesn't undertand the modern game or player - and was always pretty average at best when hard work without talent or brains could get you further than today.

FWIW - I tried to register to give them another BWFC viewpoint, but by the time I had entered the validation code the information they gave me had lapsed - and it wasn't important enough for me to try again.

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Re: Megson Watch

Post by CrazyHorse » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:52 am

Lord Kangana wrote:I don't know hoboh, but someone needs to set that lot on Owlstalk straight. They keep quoting Sir Notrite's version of War and Peace and claiming its evidence that the majority of Wanderers fans didn't hate him and his very shit football.
Who cares about that lot on Owlstalk? Let them find out the hard way.
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Re: Megson Watch

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:38 am

Hoboh wrote:My sides are hurting with laughter its a good job I've got my corrset on!

Funny thing is though where are all the Megson lovers off this forum now? the ones who accused some of us about blinkers and how we were know nowts :conf: :mrgreen:
He still posts over on The Trotters

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Re: Megson Watch

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:52 am

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Gary Megson's ginger hair is thinning but the remaining strands still shine bonfire bright. They mirror a personality that, apart from fulfilling almost every stereotype about fiery redheads, offers Sheffield Wednesday a lifeline their players have yet to grasp.

Almost two months since Megson succeeded Alan Irvine as manager, results are so disappointing that a club that, less than 20 years ago, were regarded as among the Premier League's biggest, hover, ignominiously, four points above League One's relegation zone.

The enduring hurt of Tuesday's 3-1 defeat by Brentford at Hillsborough, where this son of a Wednesday player who grew up to captain the club is still waiting to celebrate his first home managerial win, seems painfully apparent as he details the task ahead. "To me passion is not something you hope you've got in a player, it's a prerequisite," says Megson, eyes burning with evangelical zeal. "Without passion, without drive you can't do anything. You've got to play with your heart on your sleeve."

As, mere yards away, Sheffield's famous trams whizz up and down the adjacent street, the former West Bromwich Albion, Nottingham Forest and Bolton Wanderers manager bemoans a similar lack of relentless efficiency in his squad. "Some of the things that go on at this club beggar belief; we've got one or two who are ducking it," the 51-year-old says. "They're costing us goals by not winning tackles they should win and I'm angry. We've been making some pansy-like challenges. I don't want kicking and I do want fluency but you've got to win the ball."

When Irvine was sacked Wednesday – four times English champions and with three FA Cups and one League Cup to their name – had failed to turn last spring's relegation from the Championship into a promotion challenge and taken three points from a potential 30. Although things have improved slightly under Megson their last League victory at Hillsborough came on 11 December and it is with understandable hyperbole that he bills Colchester United's visit to South Yorkshire on Saturday as the season's biggest game.

The abiding frustration is that at the end of a year featuring three narrowly staved off winding-up orders Milan Mandaric finally warded off the threat off administration last November. With the former Portsmouth and Leicester owner buying the club for £1 – although he did settle an outstanding £1.8m tax debt while also handing another debtor, the Co-op Bank, £7m – Wednesdayites were suffused with a hope that has been sorely tested by recent results.

Yet if the 40,000-capacity Hillsborough at times appears like a mausoleum, crowds have rarely dropped below what is, in the circumstances, an eminently respectable 15,000. "Our position really does hurt," Megson says. "But we've got the best supporters in the country by an absolute street. It's easy to support Man United or Liverpool but it's not easy to turn up at Dagenham & Redbridge when your club is historically huge and should be one of the biggest in the country."

The trouble is that undoubtedly gifted individuals, such as the former Liverpool midfielder Darren Potter, have on occasion looked as washed out as Wednesday's once state-of-the-art training ground, a complex Mandaric has said is "tired".

Megson's irritation is palpable, so much so that he has taken the extraordinary step of addressing every player individually this week. "I've asked them if they're up for the effort and they've all responded in a positive way," he says. "We've got to start taking the initiative, we've got to start playing as though our lives depend on it."

Sometimes the sheer force of Megson's passion arguably undermines his charges. "There are times when I lose it in the technical area," he says. "I behave like that because Wednesday means so much more to me than any other club I've been at but I've got to be careful I don't go too far and frighten the lads."

Even so, he senses a need for rather more carrot than stick. "We've got to address our problem with playing at Hillsborough. Our crowd and huge stadium are big advantages we need to start using. We've got to stop standing off the opposition at home and start tearing into them."

If "wellying into" opponents has undeniably been a recurring theme of Megson's managerial modus operandi the "Ginger Mourinho" who led West Brom into the Premier League and, against considerable odds, kept Bolton part of it, is nowhere near as tactically one-dimensional as he is sometimes painted.Indeed, he is at paints to point out that, like Wednesday, he deserves better than English football's third tier. "I wouldn't have come to another League One club," he says. "I'd rather have stayed at home playing golf. I'm here because this is my team."

He does belong to a platitude-prone profession but the light in his eyes suggests that reviving one of England's sleepiest giants represents an intensely personal crusade.

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Re: Megson Watch

Post by P.O.S. » Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:18 am

his eyes burning with an evangelical zeal?!

Jesus.

At least he reverts to type later on in the interview and starts blaming individuals ay!

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