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Martin Taylor was gutted when it happened.
Yes it was a bad challenge, but really it's a freak accident when a leg gets trapped to be broken like that. Lots of similar challenges just knock players up into the air and they're fine afterwards.
Terrible for Eduardo - hopefully he'll bounce back, given that he's only a young lad.
But yes, I also hope that Taylor can bounce back too.
Yes it was a bad challenge, but really it's a freak accident when a leg gets trapped to be broken like that. Lots of similar challenges just knock players up into the air and they're fine afterwards.
Terrible for Eduardo - hopefully he'll bounce back, given that he's only a young lad.
But yes, I also hope that Taylor can bounce back too.
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I'm not having that, Daxter. There are few players more honest than Martin Taylor. It was a one-footed challenge and he got it wrong. According to Alex McLeish in his post-match interview the lad was absolutely beside himself, and I have no difficulty in believing that whatsoever.Daxter wrote:
Don't know how Martin Taylor can sleep tonight. Disgusting.
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that aside, I wonder if dax actually saw the tackle or has ever played the game. Because I've seen it. I've been on the end of such and injury too and yet I really can't see how anyone wth a modicum of insight in to the game can see it and blame the lad.Bruce Rioja wrote:I'm not having that, Daxter. There are few players more honest than Martin Taylor. It was a one-footed challenge and he got it wrong. According to Alex McLeish in his post-match interview the lad was absolutely beside himself, and I have no difficulty in believing that whatsoever.Daxter wrote:
Don't know how Martin Taylor can sleep tonight. Disgusting.
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this is a terrible injury and it is very possible that it's the end on Eduardo's career. But it is "one of those things", shit happens, Taylor shouldn't be villified
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The attempted tackle acually reminded me of Bobby Moore's famous tackle against Maradona (though Bobby had much more success)
I really don't care if it was one of his players. Wenger had no right to state that the guy should never play football again. It's a terrible injury, but he was obviously going for the ball. No-one goes flying in, trying to snap another players shin, 2 mins into the game.
If it was upto Wenger, tackling would be fxcking outlawed. "The only way to beat Arsenal is to kick them.
Slight dig there much Arsene?
I really don't care if it was one of his players. Wenger had no right to state that the guy should never play football again. It's a terrible injury, but he was obviously going for the ball. No-one goes flying in, trying to snap another players shin, 2 mins into the game.
If it was upto Wenger, tackling would be fxcking outlawed. "The only way to beat Arsenal is to kick them.
Slight dig there much Arsene?
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don't think it did.Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:The attempted tackle acually reminded me of Bobby Moore's famous tackle against Maradona (though Bobby had much more success)
I really don't care if it was one of his players. Wenger had no right to state that the guy should never play football again. It's a terrible injury, but he was obviously going for the ball. No-one goes flying in, trying to snap another players shin, 2 mins into the game.
If it was upto Wenger, tackling would be fxcking outlawed. "The only way to beat Arsenal is to kick them.
Slight dig there much Arsene?
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Yes, you have got mixed up somewhere Soldier.communistworkethic wrote:don't think it did.Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:The attempted tackle acually reminded me of Bobby Moore's famous tackle against Maradona (though Bobby had much more success)
I really don't care if it was one of his players. Wenger had no right to state that the guy should never play football again. It's a terrible injury, but he was obviously going for the ball. No-one goes flying in, trying to snap another players shin, 2 mins into the game.
If it was upto Wenger, tackling would be fxcking outlawed. "The only way to beat Arsenal is to kick them.
Slight dig there much Arsene?
Maradona started his career in Argentina in 1976, and moved to Europe in 1982. He became a full international in 1977.
Moore played his last international in 1973, and from 1976 he was playing in the USA football league.
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Well some bugger tackled him!!sluffy wrote:Yes, you have got mixed up somewhere Soldier.communistworkethic wrote:don't think it did.Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:The attempted tackle acually reminded me of Bobby Moore's famous tackle against Maradona (though Bobby had much more success)
I really don't care if it was one of his players. Wenger had no right to state that the guy should never play football again. It's a terrible injury, but he was obviously going for the ball. No-one goes flying in, trying to snap another players shin, 2 mins into the game.
If it was upto Wenger, tackling would be fxcking outlawed. "The only way to beat Arsenal is to kick them.
Slight dig there much Arsene?
Maradona started his career in Argentina in 1976, and moved to Europe in 1982. He became a full international in 1977.
Moore played his last international in 1973, and from 1976 he was playing in the USA football league.
I've played the game thanks, and I realise it wasn't particularly malicious. He's not gone in to 'do' Eduardo as say Michael Brown did to Giggs last season. It's a late and forceful challenge that has unfortunately resulted in a horrific injury. What I meant by my comment was; first it was a disgusting incident, and secondly I reckon Taylor will have had a hard time sleeping due to being guilt ridden. Apologies.
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Aye, of course that's what you meant.Daxter wrote:I've played the game thanks, and I realise it wasn't particularly malicious. He's not gone in to 'do' Eduardo as say Michael Brown did to Giggs last season. It's a late and forceful challenge that has unfortunately resulted in a horrific injury. What I meant by my comment was; first it was a disgusting incident, and secondly I reckon Taylor will have had a hard time sleeping due to being guilt ridden. Apologies.
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And it's not even a "forceful challenge", he's going in from a standing start. as Hansen pointed out he's not hard a 20 yard run up and gone in two-footed. It's the angle, point of contact and Eduardo's impetus that combine to cause the break.
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So you didn't play much in the Salford Sunday League then Soldier?Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:The attempted tackle acually reminded me of Bobby Moore's famous tackle against Maradona (though Bobby had much more success)
I really don't care if it was one of his players. Wenger had no right to state that the guy should never play football again. It's a terrible injury, but he was obviously going for the ball. No-one goes flying in, trying to snap another players shin, 2 mins into the game.
If it was upto Wenger, tackling would be fxcking outlawed. "The only way to beat Arsenal is to kick them.
Slight dig there much Arsene?
Misunderstandings or whatever aside, doesn't change the fact that Eduardo is one unlucky boy who faces a lengthy lay off. Had surgery according to the beeb
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 261466.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 261466.stm
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Apparently Taylor went to the hospital last night to see the lad but he was still is theatre.Daxter wrote:I reckon Taylor will have had a hard time sleeping due to being guilt ridden. Apologies.
You know, if some were to tell me that we were in for Martin Taylor, my immediate objection would be that he's too nice.
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depending on whether the break ruptured the skin, he'll have had surgery in Selly Oak before being moved, otherwise they'll have just xrayed him there and ensure the bones are reset and stabilised, plus dosing him with morphine . The surgery was to insert a Tibial nail and screws. This will support the bones while they heel. The leg is opened at the knee, the cap moved and the rod inserted. The rod is screwed at the knee and ankle.Verbal wrote:Misunderstandings or whatever aside, doesn't change the fact that Eduardo is one unlucky boy who faces a lengthy lay off. Had surgery according to the beeb
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 261466.stm
The insertion of the "nail" is the preferred method for these injuries as it reduces recovery time, due to the fact that after about 2 weeks the foot is weightbearing again- well at least to a point. This means less muscle wastage, it's why break injuries are often said to be not as bad as tendon ruptures - the muscle wastage is tough to get over.
How long before he's back? It could be like Larsson, back in 6 months, or David Buust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byOKCMQpxKo) whose career was finished. As I've not heard that the bone broke the skin, it's probably more towards Larsson, but the nerve damage could be the deciding factor. From personal experience I still have pain and numbness in my foot 8 years on.
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