Sammy Lee - Liverpool's No.2
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Fair enough, but equally Lee had Anelka, Megson only had Anelka for part of his time.FD wrote:How much did Megson get to spend in January?
Compare it with how much Sammy Lee spent pre-season.
I'm sure we'll be expected to believe it was Sammy's choice to take in waifs and strays though.
Net Lee spent circa 5M.
Net Megson spent circa -3M.
Lee also picked Gerald Cid in the Premiership more than once. I rest my case.
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You see, this is where stats fall short. You're crediting Megson with "making a profit", which factually he did - no argument.BWFC_Insane wrote:Fair enough, but equally Lee had Anelka, Megson only had Anelka for part of his time.FD wrote:How much did Megson get to spend in January?
Compare it with how much Sammy Lee spent pre-season.
I'm sure we'll be expected to believe it was Sammy's choice to take in waifs and strays though.
Net Lee spent circa 5M.
Net Megson spent circa -3M.
Lee also picked Gerald Cid in the Premiership more than once. I rest my case.
I don't honestly believe that he did it through good management, he made a profit because he had no choice but to sell Anelka. After accusing me of trying to make out Megson to be "worse than he actually is", I feel I could level the "you're trying to make him look better than he is" back atcha.....
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It's good management in the sense that we lost £15mil worth of player, brought in £12mil and still managed to stay up.
Whether it was his decision to sell Anelka or not, it was his decision whether or not to blow £7mil on a Leroy Lita just for the sake of buying a striker. The funds were available to him, he chose not to use them because he didn't think it was worth it, he was right and now we've more funds to play with now = Good management.
Whether it was his decision to sell Anelka or not, it was his decision whether or not to blow £7mil on a Leroy Lita just for the sake of buying a striker. The funds were available to him, he chose not to use them because he didn't think it was worth it, he was right and now we've more funds to play with now = Good management.
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LSL will get on well with Klinnsman, though.blurred wrote:Seems a somewhat odd appointment - not got any qualms about Lee's ability as a coach (always did a good job with us, and you don't get to be on the England staff if you're no good), but odd that he's now teaming up with Benitez...
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cough .... MacClaren .... coughblurred wrote:Seems a somewhat odd appointment - not got any qualms about Lee's ability as a coach (always did a good job with us, and you don't get to be on the England staff if you're no good), but odd that he's now teaming up with Benitez...
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I must say this is an unusually naive intervention from blurred....Bruce Rioja wrote:You may wish to think that one through again, fella.blurred wrote: and you don't get to be on the England staff if you're no good..
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Just to make sure no one missed bobo's post here it is again..bobo the clown wrote:cough .... MacClaren .... coughblurred wrote:Seems a somewhat odd appointment - not got any qualms about Lee's ability as a coach (always did a good job with us, and you don't get to be on the England staff if you're no good), but odd that he's now teaming up with Benitez...
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McLaren was a very good coach, as proved at United and with England. He was also a pretty average to poor as a manager, as proved with Middlesbrough and England. I was referring to 'the staff' (as in coaching staff) rather than the manager, because England have obviously had some ropey choices at the top.Bruce Rioja wrote:You may wish to think that one through again, fella.blurred wrote: and you don't get to be on the England staff if you're no good..
Think it's a bit odd as well. Pako Ayesterian (sp?) was reputed to be a tactical guru, whereas Lee is well, not that.
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Mate. We were playing better stuff under Phil Brown as coach. Sammy Lee is nowt more than a putter-out-of-the-cones and hander-out-of-the-bibs.blurred wrote:McLaren was a very good coach, as proved at United and with England. He was also a pretty average to poor as a manager, as proved with Middlesbrough and England. I was referring to 'the staff' (as in coaching staff) rather than the manager, because England have obviously had some ropey choices at the top.Bruce Rioja wrote:You may wish to think that one through again, fella.blurred wrote: and you don't get to be on the England staff if you're no good..
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Aye, there's been a bit of a hole there this year since Pako left (in about September if I recall), but Sammy's not replacing him, he's replacing Alex Miller who's off to Japan to manage out there. We're still short of a Pako replacement, and have been for some time, but Ayestaran's real value was in fitness rather than tactics - you might be confused with him being placed on gardening leave until the end of his contract because he'd know valuable tactical info about Liverpool from the inside, and so he wasn't allowed to work with a rival club (as I understand it).Athers wrote:Think it's a bit odd as well. Pako Ayesterian (sp?) was reputed to be a tactical guru, whereas Lee is well, not that.
As above, it's the fitness and training ground side of things we need, not his tactical nous (such as it is!)Bruce Rioja wrote:Mate. We were playing better stuff under Phil Brown as coach. Sammy Lee is nowt more than a putter-out-of-the-cones and hander-out-of-the-bibs.
It's also helpful that he's fluent in Spanish, from what I read.
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McClaren is, was & always will be a useless gobshite.blurred wrote:McLaren was a very good coach, as proved at United and with England. He was also a pretty average to poor as a manager, as proved with Middlesbrough and England. I was referring to 'the staff' (as in coaching staff) rather than the manager, because England have obviously had some ropey choices at the top.Bruce Rioja wrote:You may wish to think that one through again, fella.blurred wrote: and you don't get to be on the England staff if you're no good..
Your defence of him simply goes to prove the debilitating impact of drug abuse in Scouseland.
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