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Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:44 am

All ITV to a man, but things aren't much better on the government channel, where the withering decline of Motty has left a void. Jonathan Pearce's shrieking overdrive and pompous flannel would be bad enough but it's increasingly accompanied by missing the bleeding obvious; on the third replay he'll notice something that the rest of the ground knew already and act like he's cracked the secret code, before covering his fat ass by questioning his own decision ("Oh! It took a deflection, did it!?!?").

As for Lawro's smug panto act, I don't mind it on the MotD sofa, but it rather gets in the way in the commentary box. Like many others, you end up wondering precisely what expertise he brings: analysis of the split-second offside decisions taken by top-level defenders, or third-rate end-of-pier comedy stylings?

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:49 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:All ITV to a man, but things aren't much better on the government channel, where the withering decline of Motty has left a void. Jonathan Pearce's shrieking overdrive and pompous flannel would be bad enough but it's increasingly accompanied by missing the bleeding obvious; on the third replay he'll notice something that the rest of the ground knew already and act like he's cracked the secret code, before covering his fat ass by questioning his own decision ("Oh! It took a deflection, did it!?!?").

As for Lawro's smug panto act, I don't mind it on the MotD sofa, but it rather gets in the way in the commentary box. Like many others, you end up wondering precisely what expertise he brings: analysis of the split-second offside decisions taken by top-level defenders, or third-rate end-of-pier comedy stylings?

Well I'll be swimming against the tide here, but I still think nobody can beat Andy Gray for co-commentary and analysis.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:50 am

I don't mind Stan Collymore when does games on five.

There, I said it.

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:54 am

BWFCi - Gray's good when he sticks to analysis rather than the sort of opinions which make his eyebrows disappear over the top of his head like Penfold.

Collymore's not bad either, compared to some with a lot more experience.

I still think my favourite sidekick is Graham Taylor. Bags of experience, plenty humility pot-England and a very lovely man.

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:17 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:BWFCi - Gray's good when he sticks to analysis rather than the sort of opinions which make his eyebrows disappear over the top of his head like Penfold.

Collymore's not bad either, compared to some with a lot more experience.

I still think my favourite sidekick is Graham Taylor. Bags of experience, plenty humility pot-England and a very lovely man.

Aye Graham Taylor is a good un.

What opinions of Grays are you referring to?

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:41 am

To his credit it's not often during commentary; he knows the difference between report/analysis and mouthing off, unlike, say, that immense waste of blood Alan Green

It's more often (quite correctly) on his half-hour Last Word programme; when he explains something to "Richarrrd" something that he thinks might be slightly controversial, his voice goes up and octave and his eyebrows six inches, often followed somewhat redundantly by "...I really believe that"

But in-match, fine, although I'd rather he curbed his "take a bow, son"s

Tombwfc · Post by **Tombwfc** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:56 pm

Aside from his pathological obsession with slating every decision any referee makes, I don't mind Gray either.

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