John Terrys Court Case

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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by Gary the Enfield » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:02 am

He isn't a racist.

None of his family are racists.

His dad will sell coke to anyone.

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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by Verbal » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:10 am

:lol:

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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:13 am

If he had anything about him he'd have waited til the judge said 'simon says' first :)

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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:15 am

Verbal wrote::lol:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/jo ... 36075.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I heard that on the radio earlier. I thought it was a (poor) joke! :shock:
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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:29 pm

So it's now entirely ligitimate to call folks "black c*nts" - glad that one's sorted.

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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:31 pm

Worthy4England wrote:So it's now entirely ligitimate to call folks "black c*nts" - glad that one's sorted.
And "fecking black c*nts" at that! :?
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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by Annoyed Grunt » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:50 pm

It's Suarez I feel sorry for.

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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by boltonboris » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:27 pm

Rawk will be in meltdown..

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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by Puskas » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:34 pm

boltonboris wrote:Rawk will be in meltdown..

Actually......... I'll see you in a bit.
But no doubt all the posts will be from people who've followed the case every day, possibly attending court themselves, and carefully read the verdict, so they can give an informed opinion.
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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by Puskas » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:38 pm

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Worthy4England wrote:So it's now entirely ligitimate to call folks "black c*nts" - glad that one's sorted.
And "fecking black c*nts" at that! :?
That's not actually what the verdict says.

Chief Magistrate Howard Riddle: "It is therefore possible that what he [Terry] said was not intended as an insult, but rather as a challenge to what he believed had been said to him. In those circumstances, there being a doubt, the only verdict the court can record is one of not guilty."

So he has been cleared on the basis of "reasonable doubt" - there was insufficient evidence to convict him. If we were in Scotland, I believe he would have had a "not proven" verdict...
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Post by boltonboris » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:47 pm

Which is fair enough.
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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by Puskas » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:52 pm

boltonboris wrote:Which is fair enough.
Indeed.

It's important to remember he was on trial for a specific offence - and it was deemed there was insufficient evidence to convict him of that offence, so not guilty is the correct outcome.

He wasn't on trial for being an obnoxious, vile twunt...
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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:56 pm

Puskas wrote:
boltonboris wrote:Which is fair enough.
Indeed.

It's important to remember he was on trial for a specific offence - and it was deemed there was insufficient evidence to convict him of that offence, so not guilty is the correct outcome.

He wasn't on trial for being an obnoxious, vile twunt...
The prosecution should have presented those things as mitigating factors. before the verdict.

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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by bobo the clown » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:17 pm

Look, if OJ Simpson, 'Appy 'Arry & the Steven Lawrence geezers were found not guilty how was Terry ever going to be ?
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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:32 pm

Puskas wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:So it's now entirely ligitimate to call folks "black c*nts" - glad that one's sorted.
And "fecking black c*nts" at that! :?
That's not actually what the verdict says.
Where's your sense of hyperbole? Boooooooooooooooooo!

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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:44 pm

Puskas wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:So it's now entirely ligitimate to call folks "black c*nts" - glad that one's sorted.
And "fecking black c*nts" at that! :?
That's not actually what the verdict says.

Chief Magistrate Howard Riddle: "It is therefore possible that what he [Terry] said was not intended as an insult, but rather as a challenge to what he believed had been said to him. In those circumstances, there being a doubt, the only verdict the court can record is one of not guilty."

So he has been cleared on the basis of "reasonable doubt" - there was insufficient evidence to convict him. If we were in Scotland, I believe he would have had a "not proven" verdict...
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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by Salford Trotter » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:55 pm

The FA may still have a part to play and I'm assuming the burden of proof with them won't be as high
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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:25 am

Salford Trotter wrote:The FA may still have a part to play and I'm assuming the burden of proof with them won't be as high
Correct, though I'd bet that ... having waited while the Court case went ahead ... they'd not go any further now.
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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by a1 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:35 am

Salford Trotter wrote:The FA may still have a part to play and I'm assuming the burden of proof with them won't be as high
if a super high up court carnt even get clear video of terry saying

*i never called him* a [someone walks infront] f....[someone's heads in the road]...g blac..[someone earns dollar bills supping lucozade sport when theyre not thirsty] .. c..[someone else walks infront directly towards him facing forwards blocking the camera yet again, but somehow cannot tell or hear what terry is saying and is never called as a witness]..

then they're (the fa arent) never gonna get the qpr player going "john terrys just called anton a b***********c******** "

and theyre never ever gonna get video of terry saying it originally without the f word in front.

until someone invents that cctv they use on star trek that's kinda similar to that cool microsoft photosynth software, theyve got no chance.
Worthy4England wrote:So it's now entirely ligitimate to call folks "black c*nts" - glad that one's sorted.
thats one of them latin thingies, maybe this one-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignoratio_elenchi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

maybe this-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informal_fallacy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

something, jumping to conclusions like anyway.

john terry is a cockend however. [not literally.. i dont think]

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Re: John Terrys Court Case

Post by Salford Trotter » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:53 pm

FA charge John Terry so we've not seen the last of this yet
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