West Ham are complete failures! Let's all laugh at 'em!
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That would be a FIVE YEAR contract they gave him !!Bruce Rioja wrote:I read earlier that in late 2008 they gave Sicknote Ashton a new contract. 12 months later they had to settle it to the tune of over £5m.
If you didn'tr know better you'd think 'appy 'arry had something to do with this club.
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cheer up LK - it is STILL way more likely that Elmo will come good than it was that dyer or Ljungberg would have - we might yet reap the reward!Lord Kangana wrote:Is it reasonable to suggest he's on 40k pw? Potentially a £17m deal? So similar in cost to either Dyer or Ljungberg. I'm not sure I'm seeing the joke just about now.
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If he scores a hat trick against United, I'll be the first demanding a lifetime contract. Or even just one......so long as its the winner, mind,lets not get carried away.
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How many games has Elmander missed? The two Hammers in question played at around £1 million per gameLord Kangana wrote:Is it reasonable to suggest he's on 40k pw? Potentially a £17m deal? So similar in cost to either Dyer or Ljungberg. I'm not sure I'm seeing the joke just about now.
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It's a matter of time before they buy a few players, and the stupid bubble-blowers start bragging that they're chasing CL football 
Spurs and West Ham are great, both as s***e as we are, but they tend to listen to their media-hype, created by other Spammers and Yid fans, funnily enough.
Spurs and West Ham are great, both as s***e as we are, but they tend to listen to their media-hype, created by other Spammers and Yid fans, funnily enough.
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But that's not the whole story is it? It's how many chances he misses per minute compared toDavosquaredoverthehypotenuseohigiveup....thebish wrote:how many chances has elmander missed?Lord Kangana wrote:I think the number of chances he's missed would be a more pertinent stat.
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Ok. Simple question to try and get round the "stats prove everything" line of attack. Do you feel at between £14m and £17m (I'm trying to include every opinion in this debate) Elmander represents value for money? And further, value for money enoughness* to criticise equally costly transfers?
*yeah yeah
*yeah yeah
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S'all relative innit. Compared to Anelka, hell no, compared to Afonso Alves, hell yes. Overall I'd have to say no, we overpaid on him, but that doesn't make him a bad player either. To expect us never to make a transfer mistake, or pay over the odds every once in a while is ludicrous, but West Ham haven't done that. Dyer, Llujgberg, Neill, Ashton, car park attendant man, I'm sure there are more.Lord Kangana wrote:Ok. Simple question to try and get round the "stats prove everything" line of attack. Do you feel at between £14m and £17m (I'm trying to include every opinion in this debate) Elmander represents value for money? And further, value for money enoughness* to criticise equally costly transfers?
*yeah yeah
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Lord Kangana wrote:Ok. Simple question to try and get round the "stats prove everything" line of attack. Do you feel at between £14m and £17m (I'm trying to include every opinion in this debate) Elmander represents value for money? And further, value for money enoughness* to criticise equally costly transfers?
*yeah yeah
no - i was just interested in how many chances elmo has missed... you're changing the question!
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I'm fairly sure there's plenty to point at who cost way more than Elmander and gave feck all return.Lord Kangana wrote:Ok. Simple question to try and get round the "stats prove everything" line of attack. Do you feel at between £14m and £17m (I'm trying to include every opinion in this debate) Elmander represents value for money? And further, value for money enoughness* to criticise equally costly transfers?
*yeah yeah
Given that you have no notion how much he's paid, say in comparison to Andy Johnson at Fulham who cost £10.2m then value for money is all a bit inconclusive.
Bet Veron was only on about £10k per week.
We only managed so well previously, because the one time Allardyce was given decent money to spend it paid off. In general, other clubs haven't been historically so lucky, so we probably need to weigh Elmander's signing up against the general baseline rather than Bolton's.
That said, I'm disappointed with his return for our investment, but whether it is "value for money" is a bit of a bollocks comparison to try and make.
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The one against Fulham springs to mind. If he's not missed many more, and hardly scored any, surely that adds weight to the argument, cos he's a bloody striker. Non?thebish wrote:Lord Kangana wrote:Ok. Simple question to try and get round the "stats prove everything" line of attack. Do you feel at between £14m and £17m (I'm trying to include every opinion in this debate) Elmander represents value for money? And further, value for money enoughness* to criticise equally costly transfers?
*yeah yeah
no - i was just interested in how many chances elmo has missed... you're changing the question!
You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks.
Yes, you can stare into the abyss, but it's staring right back.
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I just wanted to know is all!!! You raised it as an interesting stat to know.Lord Kangana wrote:The one against Fulham springs to mind. If he's not missed many more, and hardly scored any, surely that adds weight to the argument, cos he's a bloody striker. Non?thebish wrote:Lord Kangana wrote:Ok. Simple question to try and get round the "stats prove everything" line of attack. Do you feel at between £14m and £17m (I'm trying to include every opinion in this debate) Elmander represents value for money? And further, value for money enoughness* to criticise equally costly transfers?
*yeah yeah
no - i was just interested in how many chances elmo has missed... you're changing the question!
so far - we counted 1 - I'm guessing it's more than that!
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I've got a horrible feeling we'll be laughing on the othersides of our face after the match tomorrow. They've hit form at just the wrong time. Still, they're screwed financially so there's still that to laugh at. And, as this Premier League match preview points out, the Burnley result should make us smile too. A point for us tomorrow would be a bonus.
Mandy couldn't penetrate a sl*g in Ikon, that's how lacking in confidence he isLord Kangana wrote:The one against Fulham springs to mind. If he's not missed many more, and hardly scored any, surely that adds weight to the argument, cos he's a bloody striker. Non?thebish wrote:Lord Kangana wrote:Ok. Simple question to try and get round the "stats prove everything" line of attack. Do you feel at between £14m and £17m (I'm trying to include every opinion in this debate) Elmander represents value for money? And further, value for money enoughness* to criticise equally costly transfers?
*yeah yeah
no - i was just interested in how many chances elmo has missed... you're changing the question!
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