Leigh RMI are no more...

[Leyther_Matt]

But the problem with RMI wasn't that it had nowt to do with Leigh, but that it had everything to do with a different town - Genesis removes any link to any other towns and reiterates being a Leigh club rather than squatters from Horwich.

... and at last you show the real attitude which you've edged toward since the very first indelicate, rather triumphant, input on this thread.

That line sums up your total lack of respect ... the sort of lack of respect any freeloader has ... history doesn't matter because it doesn't cover YOUR part of the subject. You guys did nothing to help build the club and so feel free, even relieved, to demean it.

Those "squatters from Horwich" were founded in 1896, one year after Leigh RL were created. I'd have thought they deserved more than a a young scroat just out of nappies to refer to them as squatters.

I doubt you enjoy being told you are just a small town in Wigan, do you Matt ? Think about it.

Ho-hum !!

No need for the personal insults.

I'm just happy that I have a football club to support from my town, though for what it's worth, Leigh RL were 'created' in 1895 because that was when rugby league was established - they'd played 'rugby' for many years before that.

[communistworkethic]

you had a team to support before fecking up its name.

I assume they'll be gettig a new strip to suit the name? Something like this maybe?

[davroduk]

Being totally impartial, I cant help thinking that the new name is totally Fecking Sh1t3.
I have Always looked for Leighs results every week, and even found myself considering going to a game.
I have no problem with dropping the "RMI" part of the name, but "Genesis" is totally fecking Bobins.
The more I think about it, the more I think to myself...............

NO NO NO NO NO

[TANGODANCER]

Being totally impartial, I cant help thinking that the new name is totally Fecking Sh1t3.
I have Always looked for Leighs results every week, and even found myself considering going to a game.
I have no problem with dropping the "RMI" part of the name, but "Genesis" is totally fecking Bobins.
The more I think about it, the more I think to myself...............

NO NO NO NO NO

So why drop the RMI in the first place?

[Dujon]

So it's all right for Bolton Wanderers (aka Trotters) to become The Whites but not for Leigh RMI to become Genesis? Why would that be so? Yes, many still refer to us as Trotters but, it appears to me, that many - if not most - members/fans/followers/supporters do not. Please don't forget that the term Wanderers is also one (just like 'Albion', 'Wednesday', 'United' and a host of other terms) which has over the years been accepted as, well, acceptable. Do I perceive a little hypocrisy?

Anyway, it's up to the club members as to what happens to a club and most assuredly not to the general populace. Whatever happens to Leigh RMI I wish them the best of luck.

Cheers, Matt.

[TANGODANCER]

So it's all right for Bolton Wanderers (aka Trotters) to become The Whites but not for Leigh RMI to become Genesis? Why would that be so? Yes, many still refer to us as Trotters but, it appears to me, that many - if not most - members/fans/followers/supporters do not. Please don't forget that the term Wanderers is also one (just like 'Albion', 'Wednesday', 'United' and a host of other terms) which has over the years been accepted as, well, acceptable. Do I perceive a little hypocrisy?

Anyway, it's up to the club members as to what happens to a club and most assuredly not to the general populace. Whatever happens to Leigh RMI I wish them the best of luck.

Cheers, Matt.

Just a point: Trotters and Whites are just localisms, Dujon. "Bolton Wanderers" (initially coined in the founder days because we had no set ground) is the club name, not either of the others. RMI is from Rail Mens Institute, the founder title. Genesis is a toally new name abandoning the old.

[FaninOz]

If it helps the team to get back to winning ways and attract larger and larger crowds then I don't mind what they are called. Similarly for BW, if a new name could help us to get into the big top 4 then I'd go with that.

It's who the team is rather than what they are called that matters. In my youth we were always called the Trotters and very rarely referred to as the Wanderers among the supporters that I mixed with. You don't lose the history just because you change the Club name, remember we are actually Christ Church formed in 1874, we didn't become Bolton Wanderers until 1877 when the club fell out with the the Vicar.

[CAPSLOCK]

I can't believe a thread about a team that dies years back can arouse such passions

FWIW, Leigh, Wigan, can hardly support a chase the egg team

Football hasn't got a chance

I'll give it 5 years

[Bruce Rioja]

If it helps the team to get back to winning ways and attract larger and larger crowds then I don't mind what they are called. Similarly for BW, if a new name could help us to get into the big top 4 then I'd go with that.

Sure. I'm at an absolute loss as to how a name change is going to achieve that but am open to your suggestions.

Oh, but you appear to shift stream here, good fellow.

It's who the team is rather than what they are called that matters.

hey ho!

In my youth we were always called the Trotters and very rarely referred to as the Wanderers among the supporters that I mixed with.

Sooooo Bolton Wanderers weren't called Bolton Wanderers in your youth were they not?

You don't lose the history just because you change the Club name, remember we are actually Christ Church formed in 1874, we didn't become Bolton Wanderers until 1877 when the club fell out with the the Vicar.

We were Christ Church FC in our infancy, not for over 110 years.

Frankly, your failure to grasp the concept of the difference between a club's name and its historical value when set against a colloquialism at a given point is, I find, absolutely staggering.

[CrazyHorse]

Look, I'm confused by all this.
Are we still Bolton Wanderers or not? Because I've got a tattoo which is going to make me look stupid if we're not.

[davroduk]

Being totally impartial, I cant help thinking that the new name is totally Fecking Sh1t3.
I have Always looked for Leighs results every week, and even found myself considering going to a game.
I have no problem with dropping the "RMI" part of the name, but "Genesis" is totally fecking Bobins.
The more I think about it, the more I think to myself...............

NO NO NO NO NO

So why drop the RMI in the first place?

Has there ever been a Leigh "Railway Mens Institute " ????

[Bruce Rioja]

I've got a tattoo which is going to make me look stupid if we're not.

The tattoo's the least of your worries on that score, Sunshine.

[Worthy4England]

Being totally impartial, I cant help thinking that the new name is totally Fecking Sh1t3.
I have Always looked for Leighs results every week, and even found myself considering going to a game.
I have no problem with dropping the "RMI" part of the name, but "Genesis" is totally fecking Bobins.
The more I think about it, the more I think to myself...............

NO NO NO NO NO

So why drop the RMI in the first place?

Has there ever been a Leigh "Railway Mens Institute " ????

No - and I think that's most of the point.

Some people who for whatever reason, and with rich history, couldn't carry on playing in Horwich. The minute they move to Leigh, the RMI bit became irrelevant (different people, different place, different time). RMI imo should continue (but only in Horwich) and only if they can. This is something different happening somewhere else - how ever you want to try and dress it..

[Leyther_Matt]

If it helps the team to get back to winning ways and attract larger and larger crowds then I don't mind what they are called. Similarly for BW, if a new name could help us to get into the big top 4 then I'd go with that.

Sure. I'm at an absolute loss as to how a name change is going to achieve that but am open to your suggestions.

It wouldn't do anything for BWFC but I'm sure that isn't the point being made - I know that the Leigh name change has already had a positive effect as two lads (United and City fans alike) who I've unsuccessfully tried to drag to RMI for at least three years asked me if I'd got my LGFC season ticket yet and where they could order one for themselves

[communistworkethic]

Being totally impartial, I cant help thinking that the new name is totally Fecking Sh1t3.
I have Always looked for Leighs results every week, and even found myself considering going to a game.
I have no problem with dropping the "RMI" part of the name, but "Genesis" is totally fecking Bobins.
The more I think about it, the more I think to myself...............

NO NO NO NO NO

So why drop the RMI in the first place?

Has there ever been a Leigh "Railway Mens Institute " ????

has their ever been a garden of eden, flood or ark in Leigh?

[Lord Kangana]

My understanding is that Leigh took the RMI suffix so they could have enter the pyramid of football higher up than just at base level.

If thats the case they should be forced to start from scratch, or keep the name IMO.

All very MKD.

[bobo the clown]

[quote="that isn't the point being made - I know that the Leigh name change has already had a positive effect as two lads (United and City fans alike) who I've unsuccessfully tried to drag to RMI for at least three years asked me if I'd got my LGFC season ticket yet and where they could order one for themselves

So, that's nothing to do with a heap of publicity, a new ground ... and them being morons ??

Look, I am just a bit sad that, after 99 years as Horwich RMI and the club movuing to Leigh but keeping the link someone has now decided to rip that all up.

It's just a shame and I do like a bit of tradition.

If, after this time, someone decided to say that the RMI bit needed to go, then sobeit, but it's still sad.

To read that they were always seen as "squatters from Horwich" seemed incredibly disrespectful. It will happen to you Wiganers one day, you won't like it & I hope when it does you remeber this. "Biter bit", "what goes around comes around" etc., etc.


Now, on a totally different tack ... if the name change had to come about the choice of Genesis is shite. It just plain is.

That's it from me on this subject.

[Zulus Thousand of em]

I'm not really bothered one way or the other - but it must be said that "Genesis" is one shite name. High fives, slappers pretending to be cheerleaders, tailgate parties and it's in Leigh, FFS!

[Athers]

Because of the pub situation we could do with some tailgate parties at the Reebok really, all we'd need are some pick up trucks, some terrible lager and it not to be pissing down and we'd be away.

[FaninOz]

If it helps the team to get back to winning ways and attract larger and larger crowds then I don't mind what they are called. Similarly for BW, if a new name could help us to get into the big top 4 then I'd go with that.

Sure. I'm at an absolute loss as to how a name change is going to achieve that but am open to your suggestions.

Oh, but you appear to shift stream here, good fellow.

It's who the team is rather than what they are called that matters.

hey ho!

In my youth we were always called the Trotters and very rarely referred to as the Wanderers among the supporters that I mixed with.

Sooooo Bolton Wanderers weren't called Bolton Wanderers in your youth were they not?

You don't lose the history just because you change the Club name, remember we are actually Christ Church formed in 1874, we didn't become Bolton Wanderers until 1877 when the club fell out with the the Vicar.

We were Christ Church FC in our infancy, not for over 110 years.

Frankly, your failure to grasp the concept of the difference between a club's name and its historical value when set against a colloquialism at a given point is, I find, absolutely staggering.

You miss the point completely, but I can't think of a simple enough way explain it so that you would understand it, so you will have to continue staggering around. Here's a few things to help you