Danny Guthrie....what a prick!!!!

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Post by potter1989bwfc » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:39 pm

if thats what your say i say were all pricks because all in all we all done something we regert

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Post by boltonboris » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:45 pm

potter1989bwfc wrote:if thats what your say i say were all pricks because all in all we all done something we regert
Yeah, but purposely break someones leg, because I've spat my dummy out isn't something I've done - I've broken somebody's ankle at Football a couple of seasons back as it happens, I hit a shot low, he jumped, it clipped his toes and smashed his ankle to pieces, I felt sick and I couldn't imagine doing something like that intentionally - There is nNO excuses for it - It's a despicable act

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Post by potter1989bwfc » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:46 pm

this is what im saying i dont think he did it on puropse he just lashed out ? he lashed out without trying to break his leg

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Post by boltonboris » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:48 pm

potter1989bwfc wrote:this is what im saying i dont think he did it on puropse he just lashed out ? he lashed out without trying to break his leg
But when your a professional athelete, you know what kind of damage you can inflict! If you sprint into a tackle and boot someone hard in the shin, with boots on, you're going to break them!! Guthrie knew that! He knew he was about to inflict damage

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Post by Soldier_Of_The_White_Army » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:49 pm

potter1989bwfc wrote:this is what im saying i dont think he did it on puropse he just lashed out ? he lashed out without trying to break his leg
Wow!

Seriously.

Fxcking wow!!! :shock:
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Post by potter1989bwfc » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:53 pm

i like how this topic was made after the news that fagan had broke his leg ? and not after you seen the highlight of the indicent or even on the sunday ? strange that aint it

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Post by boltonboris » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:57 pm

potter1989bwfc wrote:i like how this topic was made after the news that fagan had broke his leg ? and not after you seen the highlight of the indicent or even on the sunday ? strange that aint it
Because, that just drummed home the severity of the tackle, you can't defend it, not Guthrie! We'll never agree on this, and you might get frustrated! We know what happens then! :D

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:59 pm

potter1989bwfc wrote:this is what im saying i dont think he did it on puropse he just lashed out ? he lashed out without trying to break his leg
OK but say a bloke in the pub was annoying another bloke in the pub. And this bloke got frustrated and lashed out and broke the other blokes leg (without meaning it but meaning to hurt said man). What dya think should happen?

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Post by Soldier_Of_The_White_Army » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:01 pm

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potter1989bwfc wrote:this is what im saying i dont think he did it on puropse he just lashed out ? he lashed out without trying to break his leg
OK but say a bloke in the pub was annoying another bloke in the pub. And this bloke got frustrated and lashed out and broke the other blokes leg (without meaning it but meaning to hurt said man). What dya think should happen?
Calling an ambulance would be job one. :wink:
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Post by potter1989bwfc » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:03 pm

hes gets punished like GUTHRIE DID !
and boltonboris - all im saying why is did no1 make a topic about it earlier labeling him a prick because at end of the day your all calling him a prick because he broke his leg not because of the tackle

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Post by Soldier_Of_The_White_Army » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:05 pm

potter1989bwfc wrote:hes gets punished like GUTHRIE DID !
and boltonboris - all im saying why is did no1 make a topic about it earlier labeling him a prick because at end of the day your all calling him a prick because he broke his leg not because of the tackle
What tackle?
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Post by potter1989bwfc » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:08 pm

i was going to put indecent but i cant spell it so i didnt want to make my self look stupid because when i do someone on this site takes the piss :(

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Post by boltonboris » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:12 pm

potter1989bwfc wrote:i was going to put indecent but i cant spell it so i didnt want to make my self look stupid because when i do someone on this site takes the piss :(
You did okay that time mate

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Post by FD » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:13 pm

Was a bad tackle in my view, but that's all.

I saw a highlight of it last night and I honestly think that's it...it was just a bad tackle.

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Post by boltonboris » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:14 pm

FD wrote:Was a bad tackle in my view, but that's all.

I saw a highlight of it last night and I honestly think that's it...it was just a bad tackle.
He had two go's at him though! He wanted to smash him, he did it

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Post by Worthy4England » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:17 pm

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potter1989bwfc wrote:this is what im saying i dont think he did it on puropse he just lashed out ? he lashed out without trying to break his leg
OK but say a bloke in the pub was annoying another bloke in the pub. And this bloke got frustrated and lashed out and broke the other blokes leg (without meaning it but meaning to hurt said man). What dya think should happen?
Kick the fecker again to make sure? :conf:

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Post by FD » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:22 pm

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FD wrote:Was a bad tackle in my view, but that's all.

I saw a highlight of it last night and I honestly think that's it...it was just a bad tackle.
He had two go's at him though! He wanted to smash him, he did it
Didn't see that...

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:24 pm

potter1989bwfc wrote:hes gets punished like GUTHRIE DID !
and boltonboris - all im saying why is did no1 make a topic about it earlier labeling him a prick because at end of the day your all calling him a prick because he broke his leg not because of the tackle
So you think that breaking a blokes leg with a deliberate act of violence is only worthy of a 3 game ban? What would happen if you did it on the street?

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Post by potter1989bwfc » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:34 pm

he would get punished ? like guthrie did
guthrie broke the rules of the game so he got punished
doing it on the street is being the laws ? would mean he get arressted if he ever caught...
in any sport its all under control and they can be punished quickly and easier
but on the streets it takes days...weeks...months and still theym ight not be caught

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Post by Prufrock » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:51 pm

FD wrote:
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FD wrote:Was a bad tackle in my view, but that's all.

I saw a highlight of it last night and I honestly think that's it...it was just a bad tackle.
He had two go's at him though! He wanted to smash him, he did it
Didn't see that...
Yeh first time i saw it i thought i twas just a bad tackle, but he had two goes at him. I still maintain IMO that Guthrie's is different than Thatcher's. I think Guthrie's is worthy of more than a standard 3, but less than the eight Thatcher got. Thatcher's was cold and calculated, Guthrie's was hotheaded and fecking stupid. I'm not defending it, but i think it is different. I also think whether or not Fagan was 'asking for it' is irrelevant.

I think how you view it determines what the punishment should be:

either it was a young man, playing in front of a restless crowd, eager to please, caught up in all the chaos surrounding his joke club, 2-1 down in the 90th minute against a supposedly weaker team, and he has seen a random hull player try to take the ball into the corner to waste time and his frustration has boiled over. That's how i saw it. In which case i think i five game ban and a warning of control your temper or next time we'll throw the book at you.

OR, iv heard Fagan put in a poor tackle on Steven Taylor, and was being a bit of a twonk all game. If the case is Guthrie sees this and went looking for revenge, then yes he deserves the book throwing at him. Cant really see a case for it being more than Thatcher, who's tackle was at least as bad, and who had previous, but i cant remember if Thatcher got an 8 game ban or an additional 8 game ban. If the FA take the view that Guthrie was on a revenge job, i cant see how he could complain at getting somewhere around that 8 game mark. All depends which view you take, and there is evidence to back up either.
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