Tonight's Football

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:40 am

Prufrock wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:So erm, is there a rule to prevent you doing that during a penalty shoot out?
Of course there is, it's a "penalty"shootout. Not a do whatever you want shootout.
So the rules of taking a penalty are different in a shootout to taking a penalty during the course of a game?

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by LeverEnd » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:12 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:So erm, is there a rule to prevent you doing that during a penalty shoot out?
Of course there is, it's a "penalty"shootout. Not a do whatever you want shootout.
So the rules of taking a penalty are different in a shootout to taking a penalty during the course of a game?
No rebounds for a start. Taker only gets one kick. Remember this?

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by thebish » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:52 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:So erm, is there a rule to prevent you doing that during a penalty shoot out?
Of course there is, it's a "penalty"shootout. Not a do whatever you want shootout.
So the rules of taking a penalty are different in a shootout to taking a penalty during the course of a game?
yes. I am a bit amazed that you don't know this.

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:01 am

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:So erm, is there a rule to prevent you doing that during a penalty shoot out?
Of course there is, it's a "penalty"shootout. Not a do whatever you want shootout.
So the rules of taking a penalty are different in a shootout to taking a penalty during the course of a game?
yes. I am a bit amazed that you don't know this.
Not the only one it seems. I mean obviously I know there is no rebound. I'd just never really thought about the rule regarding passing forward to an on rushing player.

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by thebish » Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:26 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Not the only one it seems. I mean obviously I know there is no rebound. I'd just never really thought about the rule regarding passing forward to an on rushing player.

well, just knowing that much would mean that you already know that the rules of taking a penalty are different in a shootout to taking a penalty during the course of a game!

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Post by Enoch » Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:12 pm

I don't think the rules are different. Surely it's just that in a shoot out the penalty taker would be adjudged to have missed.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:22 pm

Enoch wrote:I don't think the rules are different. Surely it's just that in a shoot out the penalty taker would be adjudged to have missed.
The only difference I can see is in the interpretation of commencement of play. In a normal game once the penalty taker has struck the ball, normal play resumes. In a penalty shootout, it's just a series of penalties and normal play does not resume. The rules regarding penalties ARE NOT different.
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Post by thebish » Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:33 pm

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Enoch wrote:I don't think the rules are different. Surely it's just that in a shoot out the penalty taker would be adjudged to have missed.
The only difference I can see is in the interpretation of commencement of play. In a normal game once the penalty taker has struck the ball, normal play resumes. In a penalty shootout, it's just a series of penalties and normal play does not resume. The rules regarding penalties ARE NOT different.
aye - in both cases there is a different rule to determine that - hence - different rules.

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:48 pm

thebish wrote:
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Enoch wrote:I don't think the rules are different. Surely it's just that in a shoot out the penalty taker would be adjudged to have missed.
The only difference I can see is in the interpretation of commencement of play. In a normal game once the penalty taker has struck the ball, normal play resumes. In a penalty shootout, it's just a series of penalties and normal play does not resume. The rules regarding penalties ARE NOT different.
aye - in both cases there is a different rule to determine that - hence - different rules.
They are rules about recommencement of play. The rules about penalties are the same.
The rebound principle has been tested, the forward pass has not. I'd suggest that the forward pass may well be given as a goal, but not awarded as a penalty score, but we'll probably never know because nobody will have the cojones to test it because once you've won a penalty shootout you don't continue on a what if basis.
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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by Enoch » Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:22 pm

According to this, on 81 minutes Messi missed a penalty and on 82 minutes Suarez scored a goal.

Same Law!

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Post by thebish » Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:44 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
thebish wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Enoch wrote:I don't think the rules are different. Surely it's just that in a shoot out the penalty taker would be adjudged to have missed.
The only difference I can see is in the interpretation of commencement of play. In a normal game once the penalty taker has struck the ball, normal play resumes. In a penalty shootout, it's just a series of penalties and normal play does not resume. The rules regarding penalties ARE NOT different.
aye - in both cases there is a different rule to determine that - hence - different rules.
They are rules about recommencement of play. The rules about penalties are the same.
The rebound principle has been tested, the forward pass has not. I'd suggest that the forward pass may well be given as a goal, but not awarded as a penalty score, but we'll probably never know because nobody will have the cojones to test it because once you've won a penalty shootout you don't continue on a what if basis.
they are different rules about recommencement of play after a penalty process has begun - so - different rules about the taking of penalties - rules about when a penalty goal-scoring situation is over or not, rules about whether another player can subsequently become involved or not...

I would add, though, that I absolutely don't care - that this is a level of sophistic shizzle-farting low enough to lose even my interest!

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by Enoch » Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:03 pm

The rules are the same.

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by thebish » Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:04 pm

Enoch wrote:The rules are the same.
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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:39 pm

I'll be watching very carefully, if we get a pengy today...

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:47 pm

Enoch wrote:According to this, on 81 minutes Messi missed a penalty and on 82 minutes Suarez scored a goal.

Same Law!
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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by thebish » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:42 pm

Worthy4England wrote:I'll be watching very carefully, if we get a pengy today...
I think the rule is - we don't get them.

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by Burnden Paddock » Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:43 am

Now this is taking the piss!


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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by Prufrock » Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:34 pm

In the very odd position of almost wanting United to win, and certainly wanting them to not lose.
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That it's going to lose its mind
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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by thebish » Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:18 pm

Prufrock wrote:In the very odd position of almost wanting United to win, and certainly wanting them to not lose.
I doubt you're the only one...

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Re: Tonight's Football

Post by Harry Genshaw » Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:41 pm

Prufrock wrote:In the very odd position of almost wanting United to win, and certainly wanting them to not lose.
Good result in that it keeps Leicester in the driving seat and LVG in a job. Win win for me :D
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