Megson Watch

[BWFC_Insane]

Whats the context though? We were 19th when Coyle arrived, how is that significantly better than the mess Megson took over? Its just nonsense to state they were better players, theres not a shred of evidence in how the team was performing to support that claim. In the meantime he spent more money than any manager of this club has ever had. I fail to see my own inconsistency in demanding more from a manager with a wealth of resources failing to produce substantially better results than those without.

As I say he had 30M to rebuild a complete side, not like a luxury budget..

The side Megson inherited were going at a rate of 0.5ppg and would have been comfortably relegated with our lowest ever top flight points total at that rate.

Coyle inherited a side going at 1ppg that would have comfortably stayed up if that rate had been maintained.

I think there is a stark difference in those circumstances. But again, I doubt we will ever agree.

[Lord Kangana]

Thats just supposition. The facts remain that he took over in the relegation zone, and left us in it, whilst spending the largest amount of money any manager at this club has ever had. Why did you not, in proportionate measure, spew bile such as calling him a cancer on our club, yet the man who takes over his mess you publicly vilify as a stain on humanity?

I can't get my head round that, consdiering on top of that Megson is also a grade A c*nt.

[BWFC_Insane]

Thats just supposition. The facts remain that he took over in the relegation zone, and left us in it, whilst spending the largest amount of money any manager at this club has ever had. Why did you not, in proportionate measure, spew bile such as calling him a cancer on our club, yet the man who takes over his mess you publicly vilify as a stain on humanity?

I can't get my head round that, consdiering on top of that Megson is also a grade A c*nt.

The same could be said of you..

What annoys me is not so much Coyle, but that his positive media image is maintained despite how shite he is.

And to call "ppg" "supposition" is a bit rich. Its factual. And was your favourite stat when Megson was here, you were Mr PPG.

[Lord Kangana]

Never called Megson a cancer.

[boltonboris]

If we look through the team that Megson left for Coyle. I'd say there were 4 players that Megson used staunchly and were genuinely effective for him.

Firstly, Jussi. Jussi is quite blatantly beyond his best years and his abilities will only diminish. Secondly, Kevin Davies (see Jussi).

Then we have Chung Yong Lee, who has a broken leg, but before that was playing to the same level (if not better) under Coyle, when he was available.

That only leaves Gary Cahill. Who has had nothing but speculation surrounding him since Coyle came. It could be argued that he's not been as good for Coyle (though I don't agree - I think it's a case of the players around him are getting older & slower).

Megsons big money signings (except for Cahill) have been Elmander and Muamba. Coyle was the only manager to get anything like a decent return out of Elmo and Muamba has come on leaps and bounds when he's played this season and was integral to our way of playing and our relative success, last season.

Players that Megson brought in like Robinson, Knight & Steinsson (all for large sums -for us) are either on the wrong side of 30 and we can't afford to directly replace them with anything other than cheapo's and 'potential', or they have a head full of broken biscuits (Steiner)

[jaffka]

After reading that bollox in the article, I am now convinced that Megson was on here as Sir Nut.

[BWFC_Insane]

After reading that bollox in the article, I am now convinced that Megson was on here as Sir Nut.

Bloody hell, for all his faults I don't think Megson was ever on day release....

[Hoboh]

I don't think the football he plays is the problem

Deary fecking me

Go on, piss off with yer.....



Enough's enough!

We played some good stuff under him. See Spurs and City games at home as examples. Some football was very good.

Some of it was tosh.

I don't think we've seen anything significantly better football wise since. I'm not alone in that opinion either.

But taking all that opinion away, it was certainly no worse than the football Allardyce played. Results will always determine the football that can be played anyhow, as we're seeing this season.

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Manager Megson: His record

Gary Megson has won promotion twice as manager - both at West Bromwich:

Games/Won/Drawn/Lost/Win%/Success?

Norwich City (1995-96): 27/5/13/9/19%/Miss

Blackpool (1996-97): 52/21/16/15/40%/Hit

Stockport County (1997-99): 102/35/40/27/34%/Hit

Stoke City (1999): 22/9/6/7/41%/Miss

West Brom (2000-04): 221/94/77/50/43%/Hit

Nottingham Forest (2005-06): 59/17/24/18/29%/Miss

Leicester City (2007): 9/3/2/4/33%/Miss

Bolton Wanderers (2007-09): 98/27/26/45/28%/Miss

Sheffield Wednesday (2011-): 51/24/11/16/47%/Hit

Second lowest! and he was good? do feck off for once BWFCI and don't let you hatred of Coyle get to you. I know Coyles record here is worse than Megsons but that don't make Megson a good manager and God forbid anyone thinks he was a decent bloke, he was a tool a usless tool at that like a chocolate welding rod!

[malcd1]

Second lowest! and he was good? do feck off for once BWFCI and don't let you hatred of Coyle get to you. I know Coyles record here is worse than Megsons but that don't make Megson a good manager and God forbid anyone thinks he was a decent bloke, he was a tool a usless tool at that like a chocolate welding rod!

I'm not sure where this Megson had a better record than Coyle statistic come from apart from taking this season alone. Just for the record on their individual Bolton managerial careers:

Megson
Played - 98
Wins - 27
Draws - 26
Losses - 45
Win percentage - 27.55%
Points per game - 1.09

Coyle
Played - 93
Wins - 31
Draws - 17
Losses - 45
Win percentage - 33.33%
Points per game - 1.18

So overall Coyle has a better record than Megson. I would add that neither is particularly good but I would rather have Coyle any day of the week.

[BWFC_Insane]

I don't think the football he plays is the problem

Deary fecking me

Go on, piss off with yer.....



Enough's enough!

We played some good stuff under him. See Spurs and City games at home as examples. Some football was very good.

Some of it was tosh.

I don't think we've seen anything significantly better football wise since. I'm not alone in that opinion either.

But taking all that opinion away, it was certainly no worse than the football Allardyce played. Results will always determine the football that can be played anyhow, as we're seeing this season.

.

Manager Megson: His record

Gary Megson has won promotion twice as manager - both at West Bromwich:

Games/Won/Drawn/Lost/Win%/Success?

Norwich City (1995-96): 27/5/13/9/19%/Miss

Blackpool (1996-97): 52/21/16/15/40%/Hit

Stockport County (1997-99): 102/35/40/27/34%/Hit

Stoke City (1999): 22/9/6/7/41%/Miss

West Brom (2000-04): 221/94/77/50/43%/Hit

Nottingham Forest (2005-06): 59/17/24/18/29%/Miss

Leicester City (2007): 9/3/2/4/33%/Miss

Bolton Wanderers (2007-09): 98/27/26/45/28%/Miss

Sheffield Wednesday (2011-): 51/24/11/16/47%/Hit

Second lowest! and he was good? do feck off for once BWFCI and don't let you hatred of Coyle get to you. I know Coyles record here is worse than Megsons but that don't make Megson a good manager and God forbid anyone thinks he was a decent bloke, he was a tool a usless tool at that like a chocolate welding rod!

I don't think I said he was good Hoboh....

He did what he had to for a couple of seasons...distinctly average is how I'd describe him. We will have worse, and better.

[thebish]

He did what he had to for a couple of seasons...distinctly average is how I'd describe him. We will have worse, and better.

you do often say that Coyle's record is worse than Megson's, though...

it all depends what periods of time you select your stats from..

[BWFC_Insane]

He did what he had to for a couple of seasons...distinctly average is how I'd describe him. We will have worse, and better.

you do often say that Coyle's record is worse than Megson's, though...

it all depends what periods of time you select your stats from..

This season is worse than owt we did under Megson. Bottom line is don't really care, we just need to stay up. Any manager at Bolton is and will be judged by that....

[thebish]

He did what he had to for a couple of seasons...distinctly average is how I'd describe him. We will have worse, and better.

you do often say that Coyle's record is worse than Megson's, though...

it all depends what periods of time you select your stats from..

This season is worse than owt we did under Megson. Bottom line is don't really care, we just need to stay up. Any manager at Bolton is and will be judged by that....

the furiosity of your anti-coyle posts betray you...

[BWFC_Insane]

He did what he had to for a couple of seasons...distinctly average is how I'd describe him. We will have worse, and better.

you do often say that Coyle's record is worse than Megson's, though...

it all depends what periods of time you select your stats from..

This season is worse than owt we did under Megson. Bottom line is don't really care, we just need to stay up. Any manager at Bolton is and will be judged by that....

the furiosity of your anti-coyle posts betray you...

If we stay up I will be happy, as I was when Megson kept us up.

It doesn't look like we will right now, big few weeks coming up. Coyle needs to bring the right players in. Let's hope Ream is right for starters....

[thebish]

He did what he had to for a couple of seasons...distinctly average is how I'd describe him. We will have worse, and better.

you do often say that Coyle's record is worse than Megson's, though...

it all depends what periods of time you select your stats from..

This season is worse than owt we did under Megson. Bottom line is don't really care, we just need to stay up. Any manager at Bolton is and will be judged by that....

the furiosity of your anti-coyle posts betray you...

If we stay up I will be happy, as I was when Megson kept us up.

hang on - I thought you wished that Coyle would be drummed out of football with the shame and never work in football again??

[BWFC_Insane]

hang on - I thought you wished that Coyle would be drummed out of football with the shame and never work in football again??

Unlike the Megson bitters, I'm not obsessed. What I want is for us to stay up. If we don't then Coyle is a failure and has ruined a decades work to establish us in the premiership and for that I will never forgive him if it happens.

I'd have got rid weeks ago, but as its not happened I just hope we stay up. If we do, I will love Coyle, for the summer at least.....

[jaffka]

hang on - I thought you wished that Coyle would be drummed out of football with the shame and never work in football again??

Unlike the Megson bitters, I'm not obsessed. What I want is for us to stay up. If we don't then Coyle is a failure and has ruined a decades work to establish us in the premiership and for that I will never forgive him if it happens.

I'd have got rid weeks ago, but as its not happened I just hope we stay up. If we do, I will love Coyle, for the summer at least.....

You actually dont read any of the sh*te that you post then do you?

[Hoboh]

hang on - I thought you wished that Coyle would be drummed out of football with the shame and never work in football again??

Unlike the Megson bitters, I'm not obsessed. What I want is for us to stay up. If we don't then Coyle is a failure and has ruined a decades work to establish us in the premiership and for that I will never forgive him if it happens.

I'd have got rid weeks ago, but as its not happened I just hope we stay up. If we do, I will love Coyle, for the summer at least.....

To be fair I would have too, mid November actually. Think its too late to do anything and I have my doubts about letting Coyle have any of the Cahill cash another Eagles Tucany or Pratley will finish us

[bobo the clown]

Unlike the Megson bitters, I'm not obsessed.

You actually dont read any of the sh*te that you post then do you?

Really BWFC-i. Do you believe that ?

There is a feature on here where you can look at all of someone's posts. Do that, on your own posts & look over the past 6 months .... and you may have an awakening. It's like Sir Nut never went away.

I don't have a problem with you having an opinion, I may even sympathise, but it's an obsession with you.

[Hoboh]

Unlike the Megson bitters, I'm not obsessed.

You actually dont read any of the sh*te that you post then do you?

Really BWFC-i. Do you believe that ?

There is a feature on here where you can look at all of someone's posts. Do that, on your own posts & look over the past 6 months .... and you may have an awakening. It's like Sir Nut never went away.

I don't have a problem with you having an opinion, I may even sympathise, but it's an obsession with you.

Best not look at my posts then