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a1 wrote:

LeverEnd wrote:Time to thank Dougie for his efforts and get on the old dog and bone.

dont think we've got the £50million+ he needs to get 17 points from 18 matches.

thats a 'more than megson had' budget .

How many times have you sucked megsons worm?

About 49.9 million times.

jaffka wrote:
How many times have you sucked megsons worm?

i couldve equally said more money than allardyce had , but folk dont believe allardyce spent 50 million . they do all kind of maths to prove he broke even at least , whereas megson wasted "allardyces profit" without question.

anori nishisawa, dwight perozolli , jeremy bon , etc = cost nowt.

gregor rasiak = waste of wages.

so for reasons of 'bias' i used megson , cos if i said allardyce , it wouldnt work (even though it is no less or more true).

probably about the same amount of times youve put 'coyle's pingpong paddle handle' in your arse

a1 wrote:

jaffka wrote:
How many times have you sucked megsons worm?

i couldve equally said more money than allardyce had , but folk dont believe allardyce spent 50 million . they do all kind of maths to prove he broke even at least , whereas megson wasted "allardyces profit" without question.

anori nishisawa, dwight perozolli , jeremy bon , etc = cost nowt.

gregor rasiak = waste of wages.

so for reasons of 'bias' i used megson , cos if i said allardyce , it wouldnt work (even though it is no less or more true).

probably about the same amount of times youve put 'coyle's pingpong paddle handle' in your arse

So in summary you equate megson to Alladyce.

Quite why you are doing that oh stoned one is totally beyond me

i do in terms of money spent.

going "i dont think we'll get malky coz we dont have 50 million , thats an Allardyce sized budget"

going "i dont think we'll get malky coz we dont have 50 million , thats an Megson sized budget"

people are more going to believe the second one, due to bias or shit maths or whatever. ive not done the numbers, but allardyce spent a lot, as did megson. dunno if its 50 million each, but Malky M. spent roughly that at cardiff.

we dont have that kind of money.

a1 wrote:i do in terms of money spent.

going "i dont think we'll get malky coz we dont have 50 million , thats an Allardyce sized budget"

going "i dont think we'll get malky coz we dont have 50 million , thats an Megson sized budget"

people are more going to believe the second one, due to bias or shit maths or whatever. ive not done the numbers, but allardyce spent a lot, as did megson. dunno if its 50 million each, but Malky M. spent roughly that at cardiff.

we dont have that kind of money.

Lets be direct, you are saying that Megson is of equal skill and ability as Alladyce?

no, i'm saying we wont get malky m. because he's just spent 50 million to get 17 points from 18 matches.

those spending days (of megson , allardyce, carnt really say anyone else really- rioch , neal, never had that kinda budget) seem to be over , at least for the time being..

thinking about it now, i shouldve used Todd .

feck me, he spent some money.

a1 wrote:no, i'm saying we wont get malky m. because he's just spent 50 million to get 17 points from 18 matches.

those spending days (of megson , allardyce, carnt really say anyone else really- rioch , neal, never had that kinda budget) seem to be over , at least for the time being..

thinking about it now, i shouldve used Todd .

feck me, he spent some money.

So you don't equate Megson to Alladyce then.

We wont get Malky in or anyone else as we currently have a manager, who it seems the board have patience with and have backed him with a significant amount.

not manager goodness wise, you only have to look at the tables and results for that, allardyce is probably the best manager we've ever had.

whats frightening is when i think about it megson's probably high up on the list, which makes my head hurt with how shite we've bin for decades. not many kept em in the top league twice.

i've pissed myself off thinking about that now, kinda upsetting in its way.

you could probably run all the numbers through a sort of Elo style ratings system to figure out what's what. fairly sure allardyce would be top.

dunno were ,say, ian greaves would be compared to rioch. that's for rating systems maths sabermetrics buffs to figure out.

allardyce would love it , probably. i hope he gets the printouts for his birthday.

:/

a1 wrote:not manager goodness wise, you only have to look at the tables and results for that, allardyce is probably the best manager we've ever had.

whats frightening is when i think about it megson's probably high up on the list, which makes my head hurt with how shite we've bin for decades. not many kept em in the top league twice.

i've pissed myself off thinking about that now, kinda upsetting in its way.

you could probably run all the numbers through a sort of Elo style ratings system to figure out what's what. fairly sure allardyce would be top.

dunno were ,say, ian greaves would be compared to rioch. that's for rating systems maths sabermetrics buffs to figure out.

allardyce would love it , probably. i hope he gets the printouts for his birthday.

:/

I'm still no closer as to what you are going on about, so I'm giving up. You make my head hurt.

OGS looks a done deal.

ChrisC wrote:OGS looks a done deal.

Johnny Foreigner in a snazzy suit just I predicted... no offence to Ole as he was a great player and despite playing for Utd you don't hear a bad word said against him... though he's going to test that patience if he takes this job.

It's just more proof that in the Premier League, all you have to do is have a foreign passport and both domestic and foreign owners swoon over you, because they're so cultured and knowledgeable.

And giving him a massive transfer budget achieves what? Righting Mackay's 'wrongs'? Tell me where you could find a player as good as Medel for less than £11m? Cornelius might not be ready yet and thus an expensive experiment but his scoring rate at FC Copenhagen was pretty awesome for a first season... buying him 'early' just meant that he was Cardiff's when he matured and got more experience, perhaps on loan... perhaps on loan to us?

McNaughton started for cardiff against Arsenal today and just said nice things about Solskjaer on SSN. Damn.

ChrisC wrote:OGS looks a done deal.

It is....http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25567406" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't see what the big deal with Mr Solskaaer is. It appears to be a given that he'll be a great manager.

Well, if Tan lives up to his word and offers him loadsa money we'll never really know as that is an entirely different ball-game.

bobo the clown wrote:I don't see what the big deal with Mr Solskaaer is. It appears to be a given that he'll be a great manager.

Well, if Tan lives up to his word and offers him loadsa money we'll never really know as that is an entirely different ball-game.

of course we don't really the guy from adam and he has no track record to look at. I can't imagine Mr Tan probably knew who he is, unless he is one of utds far east fans and remembers Solskaaers champ League winner. All in all it seems like a huge punt, based on the utd/ ferguson fairydust that fell onto bruce, keane, robson .......

Whether it works or not only time will tell ... however, it must be said that Tan's played a blinder selecting OGS. There's now a media love-in and MacKay's already in the 'history' bucket.

LeverEnd wrote:McNaughton started for cardiff against Arsenal today and just said nice things about Solskjaer on SSN. Damn.

Got absolutely ripped to pieces just going off the MOTD highlights!

I'm a little confused as to why an up and coming manager like Solskjaer would take a poisoned chalice like this (apart from money). I suppose that the situation there is so bizarre that he assumes he won't be blamed for relegation, if it happens.

a1 wrote:i couldve equally said more money than allardyce had , but folk dont believe allardyce spent 50 million . they do all kind of maths to prove he broke even at least , whereas megson wasted "allardyces profit" without question.

anori nishisawa, dwight perozolli , jeremy bon , etc = cost nowt.

gregor rasiak = waste of wages.

so for reasons of 'bias' i used megson , cos if i said allardyce , it wouldnt work (even though it is no less or more true).

Isn't the obvious counter-argument here that Allardyce was at the club for eight years, and Megson was at the club for two years? Am I missing something?