Your England XI

[Mar]

They need to engage brain rather that brainwashed.

They definitely don't seem free. They seem stuck in this system. Bellingham looks like he's been neutered compared to his first game.

[Mar]

Gonna finish 0-0 surely.

[BWFC_Insane]

Foden needs to play in the number 10 role. Bellingham I’m not at all impressed with in that role.

[Worthy4England]

They need to engage brain rather that brainwashed.

They definitely don't seem free. They seem stuck in this system. Bellingham looks like he's been neutered compared to his first game.

He does mate, without a doubt. This is awful.

[TANGODANCER]

We didn't score, so we didn't win. That's about it. To be honest, we never really looked like scoring. The opposition's plan was simple till ten minutes from time when they got a scent of blood and went for us. The way results have been going, they might almost have managed it. We won't win a thing unless we ring the changes. Are you listening Gareth?

[Mar]

They need to engage brain rather that brainwashed.

They definitely don't seem free. They seem stuck in this system. Bellingham looks like he's been neutered compared to his first game.

He does mate, without a doubt. This is awful.

Well Southgate's reluctance to change things has yielded the same sort of result we've seen in the last few games.

On a more positive note, it looked like he'd spotted a few issues and attempted to address them by giving the players clear instructions on where to be and the sorts of passes that we need to break the opposition down. Trouble was, the players are still looking nervous and not willing to gamble on the increased tempo.

Thankfully the injection of Gordon, Palmer, etc. upped the tempo and new things were tried. I'd be flabbergasted to see Saka picked ahead of Palmer in the next game. Palmer in the space of 10 minutes did more than Saka had done in the last 2 games. I like Saka, but he looked hamstrung rather than creative.

[BWFC_Insane]

Southgate is clueless. If you were going to play anyone in midfield it had to be Wharton because he has the energy and forward momentum that we lack with Rice and any of the others. Gallagher is competent and no more. Mainoo I don’t think is the complete deal yet.

Midfield is a huge issue and we lack anything approaching an international class player there. Bellingham we could try back there. But ultimately you can’t do much if you sit so deep and have outlets.

Incredibly poor. Southgate thinks it was good though. Which sums it all up. One of the most insipid and lacklustre displays devoid of any energy or fizz you will see. He should be coming out and saying it. Instead it’s hiding behind nonsense.

[officer_dibble]

Wharton will need picking up by the next manager cos this clown (he’s no kalvin Phillips!) has brought him out here for nowt!

He’s created an environment where creativity is stifled. It’s all the bad endings of erikson, capello, hoddle rolled into one. Lord knows why I keep seeing ‘Englands route to the final’ - we look incapable of opening a team up, which with the players he has, is incredibly sad.

[Worthy4England]

Cards on table. I liked Southgate (when he first stepped up). It was probably (and maybe arguably) the first time in my 100 years on the planet, I actually believed we could win. That's no slight on 1990 where I didn't believe we could win, but put on a decent show.

But since that first couple of years - maybe 4, can't be precise, we've regressed. Significantly. It's sorta become the parody of "not the golden generation." I was never once convinced of the golden generation. It was media bullshit. The players we have available, I believe could win a pot - and we still might. But fook me it's boring.

Talking to my City mate at half time, he was in a similar place with this posession football. We need to shoot it. Sometime soon.

[Prufrock]

He's played 24 games against top 10 nations and won 4. The only one of those that was in a major tournament was against a Germany who were midst between going out of two world cups in the group stage. Went spent all this money on st George's to find a bunch of technically tactically savvy players and we've left a shithouse try to stay up manager in charge. You can say what you want about performances, he doesn't get how it fits together. Doesn't matter how good a midfielder you are, is the round pegs are square you're fecked.

It's like rolling three sixes and deciding you got good darts. We haven't beaten one single good team. Sven would've won everything if he could just play Senegal forever. Shite. The worst bit is he's managed to overlap perfectly with the prime years of a world class striker.

[Prufrock]

Who the feck was the Middlesbrough left back in 2004? I want words with that c*nt

[Mar]

It would help if we made a concerted effort to win the game.

From what I saw today we were more scared of losing than attacking. In a dead rubber of all games.

If our standard formula is defensive then we'll be out as soon as we concede a goal. As per iceland. We'll be inept up top when we could be so much better.

There's no rallying cry for England this time Southgate. Loved what you did to get the international team on the same page as the fans but now it feels like the kiddy wheels need to come off.

[Prufrock]

The worst thing you can see on football, the biggest sign that the people in charge dont know what to do is watch a team that is being defensive *by accident*

[Worthy4England]

Quite.liked this one...

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[officer_dibble]

The worst thing you can see on football, the biggest sign that the people in charge dont know what to do is watch a team that is being defensive *by accident*

Yep, the fear factor. And if you can’t ‘have a go’ in a meaningless group game where uefa have made qualification mandatory, yer fecked when you need a goal in the knock outs.

[Hoboh]

Bellingham looks nothing like his 'status' and frankly, should be on the bench.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Slovakia on Sunday. Changes needed. Which means dropping some people.

[TANGODANCER]

We've never had a Euro quite like this one. So much has changed, rules, refereeing, players attitudes and general behaviour (witness the scenes at the end of the latest fandango) that it's a whole new ball game (sorry) . It's become much more unpredictable and our own game has to change with it. Some shock results make it all the more omelette menu than simple fried egg now. Not sure how confident I feel right now. Last game we had a few careless moments that need ironing out, Kyle Walker not the least .

Desptite new talent, I still wish Harry McGuire was partnering Stones in defence. Gallagher is a real breath of fresh air, and Harry Kane needs a goal or two to right his balance. Ah well, Que Sera as ever..

[Prufrock]

If nothing else, he's a f*cking lucky bastard. The gods must feel really bad for 96.

[Hoboh]

We've never had a Euro quite like this one. So much has changed, rules, refereeing, players attitudes and general behaviour (witness the scenes at the end of the latest fandango) that it's a whole new ball game (sorry) . It's become much more unpredictable and our own game has to change with it. Some shock results make it all the more omelette menu than simple fried egg now. Not sure how confident I feel right now. Last game we had a few careless moments that need ironing out, Kyle Walker not the least .

Desptite new talent, I still wish Harry McGuire was partnering Stones in defence. Gallagher is a real breath of fresh air, and Harry Kane needs a goal or two to right his balance. Ah well, Que Sera as ever..