Shrek crosses his gaffer!

[Prufrock]

I reckon it's a massive ploy, from Fergusson, which Rooney is in on, to get the Glazers to spend some money. Look, best player going to leave. Ambition. No players. We're knackered if he goes. MONEYYY ye wee bastards.

No?

Also, made me chuckle,

"Rooney is injured at the moment, after an accidental clash with Paul Scholes in training on Tuesday, and was not visible inside the stadium."

I'm sticking with this. More money for Rooney and a guarantee of more funds. Dastardly Mr Fergusson.

[Gary the Enfield]

Anybody remember the Anelka sale? Signed a four year deal then left the next transfer window. Anelka was happy because he got the step up he wanted. Bolton were happy 'cos they got a fair price for him.

Now consider. Rooney set to walk away for peanuts. United sign him up on a five year deal, tripling his current value. I wonder what will happen in the next transfer window?

[Horza]

How is anyone getting the idea that this is a victory for Fergie?

He's held for time immemorial that no player is bigger than the club, let alone S'rallix the Fercilless. Rooney publicly contradicted him, walked out of contract talks that were virtually a formality, challenged him and the Glazers to end their charade over the transfer budget and they've caved.

We were given a little glimpse at post-Rooney United and it was shown to be a barren wasteland, despite his shite form and open dicking of his gaffer. They needed him despite it all, while there were definately other fish in the sea for him.

No player was bigger than United, now there's one.

[BWFC_Insane]

How is anyone getting the idea that this is a victory for Fergie?

He's held for time immemorial that no player is bigger than the club, let alone S'rallix the Fercilless. Rooney contradicted him publically, walked out of contract talks that were virtually a formality, challenged him and the Glazers to end their charade over the transfer budget and they've caved.

We were given a little glimpse at post-Rooney United and it was shown to be a barren wasteland, despite his shite form and open dicking of his gaffer. They needed him despite it all, while there were definately other fish in the sea for him.

No player was bigger than United, now there's one.

Yep pretty much this.

Rooney got too big for his boots and Fergie was in a position so weak that he couldn't shoot him down.

Fergie has lost some of his control IMO though that was always inevitable with the way the modern game is going.

[Prufrock]

To see whether or not Fergusson wins we need to see how much they spend in the next twelve months. If it's a lot, or enough on the big players, then I think he'll class it as a victory. Always been a pragmatist, hence his refusal to ever publicly even hint he hasn't had full backing in the transfer market, and he had a choice. No money for players, and no Rooney, or a re-invigorated Rooney (he will be, something to prove, out of form, cue goal rush) and presumably Rooney has been guaranteed they will spend money too, so new players. He loses a bit of face, but in a PR move so well spun he comes out looking like a concerned father. All this 'no-one crosses Fergusson'. With his record, he doesn't need send signals, there won't be a single player in that dressing room who doesn't think he is the best around. All in all this has turned out rather bastard well for the Rags IMO.

[marshall_42]

Anybody remember the Anelka sale? Signed a four year deal then left the next transfer window. Anelka was happy because he got the step up he wanted. Bolton were happy 'cos they got a fair price for him.

Now consider. Rooney set to walk away for peanuts. United sign him up on a five year deal, tripling his current value. I wonder what will happen in the next transfer window?

Those are my thoughts too. Surprised the press haven't suggested it yet.

[bristol_Wanderer3]

How is anyone getting the idea that this is a victory for Fergie?

He's held for time immemorial that no player is bigger than the club, let alone S'rallix the Fercilless. Rooney contradicted him publically, walked out of contract talks that were virtually a formality, challenged him and the Glazers to end their charade over the transfer budget and they've caved.

We were given a little glimpse at post-Rooney United and it was shown to be a barren wasteland, despite his shite form and open dicking of his gaffer. They needed him despite it all, while there were definately other fish in the sea for him.

No player was bigger than United, now there's one.

Yep pretty much this.

Rooney got too big for his boots and Fergie was in a position so weak that he couldn't shoot him down.

Fergie has lost some of his control IMO though that was always inevitable with the way the modern game is going.

Totally disagree, sadly. This is a very well played victory for Fergie. He chose to publicise the issue, and by doing that he flushed Rooney and his agent out and got what he wanted, a signed-up, motivated Rooney with something to prove, a glavanised squad and fan-base. Fergie's authority to my mind has been completely strengthened.

[BWFC_Insane]

How is anyone getting the idea that this is a victory for Fergie?

He's held for time immemorial that no player is bigger than the club, let alone S'rallix the Fercilless. Rooney contradicted him publically, walked out of contract talks that were virtually a formality, challenged him and the Glazers to end their charade over the transfer budget and they've caved.

We were given a little glimpse at post-Rooney United and it was shown to be a barren wasteland, despite his shite form and open dicking of his gaffer. They needed him despite it all, while there were definately other fish in the sea for him.

No player was bigger than United, now there's one.

Yep pretty much this.

Rooney got too big for his boots and Fergie was in a position so weak that he couldn't shoot him down.

Fergie has lost some of his control IMO though that was always inevitable with the way the modern game is going.

Totally disagree, sadly. This is a very well played victory for Fergie. He chose to publicise the issue, and by doing that he flushed Rooney and his agent out and got what he wanted, a signed-up, motivated Rooney with something to prove, a glavanised squad and fan-base. Fergie's authority to my mind has been completely strengthened.

So you're telling me that Rooney signed on Fergie's terms?

Sorry don't believe that.

If Rooney didn't get what he wanted he'd have walked. Nothing Fergie could have done about it. Remember all the players in the past Man Utd couldn't "afford to lose" who in one way or another got too big for their boots, Ince, Kanchelskis, Horseface, Stam, Heinze etc etc, what happened to all of them? Did Fergie beg them to stay? No he shipped them and made the squad even stronger.

Every time Rooney has a dip in form the Utd fans will be on his case now.

In my mind once a player has said he wants to go long term the club would be better off letting him go.

[marshall_42]

How is anyone getting the idea that this is a victory for Fergie?

He's held for time immemorial that no player is bigger than the club, let alone S'rallix the Fercilless. Rooney contradicted him publically, walked out of contract talks that were virtually a formality, challenged him and the Glazers to end their charade over the transfer budget and they've caved.

We were given a little glimpse at post-Rooney United and it was shown to be a barren wasteland, despite his shite form and open dicking of his gaffer. They needed him despite it all, while there were definately other fish in the sea for him.

No player was bigger than United, now there's one.

Yep pretty much this.

Rooney got too big for his boots and Fergie was in a position so weak that he couldn't shoot him down.

Fergie has lost some of his control IMO though that was always inevitable with the way the modern game is going.

Totally disagree, sadly. This is a very well played victory for Fergie. He chose to publicise the issue, and by doing that he flushed Rooney and his agent out and got what he wanted, a signed-up, motivated Rooney with something to prove, a glavanised squad and fan-base. Fergie's authority to my mind has been completely strengthened.

So you're telling me that Rooney signed on Fergie's terms?

Sorry don't believe that.

If Rooney didn't get what he wanted he'd have walked. Nothing Fergie could have done about it. Remember all the players in the past Man Utd couldn't "afford to lose" who in one way or another got too big for their boots, Ince, Kanchelskis, Horseface, Stam, Heinze etc etc, what happened to all of them? Did Fergie beg them to stay? No he shipped them and made the squad even stronger.

Every time Rooney has a dip in form the Utd fans will be on his case now.

In my mind once a player has said he wants to go long term the club would be better off letting him go.

and they will be better off. They can ask any price they like now they have him on a 5 year contract....

[bristol_Wanderer3]

So you're telling me that Rooney signed on Fergie's terms?

Sorry don't believe that.

If Rooney didn't get what he wanted he'd have walked. Nothing Fergie could have done about it. Remember all the players in the past Man Utd couldn't "afford to lose" who in one way or another got too big for their boots, Ince, Kanchelskis, Horseface, Stam, Heinze etc etc, what happened to all of them? Did Fergie beg them to stay? No he shipped them and made the squad even stronger.

Every time Rooney has a dip in form the Utd fans will be on his case now.

In my mind once a player has said he wants to go long term the club would be better off letting him go.

Absolutely, he signed on Fergie's terms. I suggest with all those players you list, United could afford to lose them. The only one who left who Fergie really wanted to stay was Christiano Ronaldo. Rooney would have also fallen into that category, but Fergie manoevered things very well to ensure that didn't happen.

I suggest that United fans will cheer for Rooney very loudly when he next plays, and he will have very few dips in form this season, and he will proclaim his love for the club and fans at every opportunity.

[William the White]

So you're telling me that Rooney signed on Fergie's terms?

Sorry don't believe that.

If Rooney didn't get what he wanted he'd have walked. Nothing Fergie could have done about it. Remember all the players in the past Man Utd couldn't "afford to lose" who in one way or another got too big for their boots, Ince, Kanchelskis, Horseface, Stam, Heinze etc etc, what happened to all of them? Did Fergie beg them to stay? No he shipped them and made the squad even stronger.

Every time Rooney has a dip in form the Utd fans will be on his case now.

In my mind once a player has said he wants to go long term the club would be better off letting him go.

Absolutely, he signed on Fergie's terms. I suggest with all those players you list, United could afford to lose them. The only one who left who Fergie really wanted to stay was Christiano Ronaldo. Rooney would have also fallen into that category, but Fergie manoevered things very well to ensure that didn't happen.

I suggest that United fans will cheer for Rooney very loudly when he next plays, and he will have very few dips in form this season, and he will proclaim his love for the club and fans at every opportunity.

Is the implication that his current dip in form was manufactured for some reason? Or that money helps a player's form? (I don't see why it shouldn't, btw).

[Lord Kangana]

They're still all bastards to a man.

[BWFC_Insane]

So you're telling me that Rooney signed on Fergie's terms?

Sorry don't believe that.

If Rooney didn't get what he wanted he'd have walked. Nothing Fergie could have done about it. Remember all the players in the past Man Utd couldn't "afford to lose" who in one way or another got too big for their boots, Ince, Kanchelskis, Horseface, Stam, Heinze etc etc, what happened to all of them? Did Fergie beg them to stay? No he shipped them and made the squad even stronger.

Every time Rooney has a dip in form the Utd fans will be on his case now.

In my mind once a player has said he wants to go long term the club would be better off letting him go.

Absolutely, he signed on Fergie's terms. I suggest with all those players you list, United could afford to lose them. The only one who left who Fergie really wanted to stay was Christiano Ronaldo. Rooney would have also fallen into that category, but Fergie manoevered things very well to ensure that didn't happen.

I suggest that United fans will cheer for Rooney very loudly when he next plays, and he will have very few dips in form this season, and he will proclaim his love for the club and fans at every opportunity.

Allegedly he's signed on double his salary. We'll have to agree to disagree I guess.

[thebish]

So you're telling me that Rooney signed on Fergie's terms?

Sorry don't believe that.

If Rooney didn't get what he wanted he'd have walked. Nothing Fergie could have done about it. Remember all the players in the past Man Utd couldn't "afford to lose" who in one way or another got too big for their boots, Ince, Kanchelskis, Horseface, Stam, Heinze etc etc, what happened to all of them? Did Fergie beg them to stay? No he shipped them and made the squad even stronger.

Every time Rooney has a dip in form the Utd fans will be on his case now.

In my mind once a player has said he wants to go long term the club would be better off letting him go.

Absolutely, he signed on Fergie's terms. I suggest with all those players you list, United could afford to lose them. The only one who left who Fergie really wanted to stay was Christiano Ronaldo. Rooney would have also fallen into that category, but Fergie manoevered things very well to ensure that didn't happen.

I suggest that United fans will cheer for Rooney very loudly when he next plays, and he will have very few dips in form this season, and he will proclaim his love for the club and fans at every opportunity.

Allegedly he's signed on double his salary. We'll have to agree to disagree I guess.

that'd be a relief all round!

[Tombwfc]

Anybody remember the Anelka sale? Signed a four year deal then left the next transfer window. Anelka was happy because he got the step up he wanted. Bolton were happy 'cos they got a fair price for him.

Now consider. Rooney set to walk away for peanuts. United sign him up on a five year deal, tripling his current value. I wonder what will happen in the next transfer window?

Those are my thoughts too. Surprised the press haven't suggested it yet.

Why would Rooney agree to that? All the cards were in his corner.

[Zulus Thousand of em]

You may find that Wayne's "dip in form" is alcohol related - possibly. Lots of people alluding to him being Gazza Mark2.

Time will tell.

[bristol_Wanderer3]

So you're telling me that Rooney signed on Fergie's terms?

Sorry don't believe that.

If Rooney didn't get what he wanted he'd have walked. Nothing Fergie could have done about it. Remember all the players in the past Man Utd couldn't "afford to lose" who in one way or another got too big for their boots, Ince, Kanchelskis, Horseface, Stam, Heinze etc etc, what happened to all of them? Did Fergie beg them to stay? No he shipped them and made the squad even stronger.

Every time Rooney has a dip in form the Utd fans will be on his case now.

In my mind once a player has said he wants to go long term the club would be better off letting him go.

Absolutely, he signed on Fergie's terms. I suggest with all those players you list, United could afford to lose them. The only one who left who Fergie really wanted to stay was Christiano Ronaldo. Rooney would have also fallen into that category, but Fergie manoevered things very well to ensure that didn't happen.

I suggest that United fans will cheer for Rooney very loudly when he next plays, and he will have very few dips in form this season, and he will proclaim his love for the club and fans at every opportunity.

Allegedly he's signed on double his salary. We'll have to agree to disagree I guess.

Double his salary (if these reports are true) being £180,000pw, substantially less than he would have got at Man City, where (allegedly) Yaya Toure is on over £200,000pw.

[bristol_Wanderer3]

So you're telling me that Rooney signed on Fergie's terms?

Sorry don't believe that.

If Rooney didn't get what he wanted he'd have walked. Nothing Fergie could have done about it. Remember all the players in the past Man Utd couldn't "afford to lose" who in one way or another got too big for their boots, Ince, Kanchelskis, Horseface, Stam, Heinze etc etc, what happened to all of them? Did Fergie beg them to stay? No he shipped them and made the squad even stronger.

Every time Rooney has a dip in form the Utd fans will be on his case now.

In my mind once a player has said he wants to go long term the club would be better off letting him go.

Absolutely, he signed on Fergie's terms. I suggest with all those players you list, United could afford to lose them. The only one who left who Fergie really wanted to stay was Christiano Ronaldo. Rooney would have also fallen into that category, but Fergie manoevered things very well to ensure that didn't happen.

I suggest that United fans will cheer for Rooney very loudly when he next plays, and he will have very few dips in form this season, and he will proclaim his love for the club and fans at every opportunity.

Is the implication that his current dip in form was manufactured for some reason? Or that money helps a player's form? (I don't see why it shouldn't, btw).

It could be I suppose William, or at least influenced by the general uncertainty, but that wasn't meant to be the implication. I was merely suggesting that he will now be very motivated, relieved this is all over, and the fans and manager will be right behind him, and I think he will get back to the form of last season - sadly.

[bobo the clown]

Well, tho Shrek, Satan, the low quality recent signings and the Hillbillies all look a bit silly from all this ... Satan probably least of all ... the ones who emerge looking dafter than daft & sum up their collective IQ's are the prawn sandwich munchers.

All those "fans" who, withing minutes, were calling him not fit to burn, not least those who turned up at his home last night to tell him he was a c*nt .... now shown up full & well. In fact you wonder whether all that may have driven him further from signing ... until he looked at all those £noughts.

[as]

It's cracking me up.

Fergie, Rooney, Paul Stretford and some wacky owners.

A match made in heaven.