Barton to Newcastle

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:08 pm

As soon as Parker fecks off to Spam.

On SSN now.

Good signing, deffo a better option than Parker.

Daxter · Post by **Daxter** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:26 pm

Watch the Geordie's revolt if it doesn't go right- especially if he signs Diouf.

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:07 pm

Batman wrote:As soon as Parker fecks off to Spam.

On SSN now.

Good signing, deffo a better option than Parker.

In my considered opinion, Batman, bollocks!

Dr.Karl · Post by **Dr.Karl** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:18 pm

Got to agree with Batty, Barton is a class act on the pitch. He was head and shoulders above everyone else including our lot at COMS when we beat them 2-0. Emre and Barton in midfield.....FIGHT!

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:59 pm

Dr.Karl wrote:Got to agree with Batty, Barton is a class act on the pitch. He was head and shoulders above everyone else including our lot at COMS when we beat them 2-0.

That's not the point though, Doc. Being better than Kevin Nolan's one thing, but do you seriously consider Barton to be a better, more worthwhile central midfielder than Scott Parker?

Dr.Karl · Post by **Dr.Karl** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:26 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Dr.Karl wrote:Got to agree with Batty, Barton is a class act on the pitch. He was head and shoulders above everyone else including our lot at COMS when we beat them 2-0.
That's not the point though, Doc. Being better than Kevin Nolan's one thing, but do you seriously consider Barton to be a better, more worthwhile central midfielder than Scott Parker?

Yes, I do. In terms of passing range he certainly is. While he may not be as combative as Parker, he certainly has the ability to get stuck in and make a tackle, but he is more versatile and supports attacks much more frequently than Parker does. Not that I'm saying Parker is a bad player. I'd take him in a heartbeat purely on his footballing abilities but there is the attitude issue which is always lingering over him.

He certainly is a better midfielder imv, but like you say is he worthwhile with all his attitude problems? I believe so, if that can be kept in check then Sam has got a bargin.

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:46 pm

Dr.Karl wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Dr.Karl wrote:Got to agree with Batty, Barton is a class act on the pitch. He was head and shoulders above everyone else including our lot at COMS when we beat them 2-0.
That's not the point though, Doc. Being better than Kevin Nolan's one thing, but do you seriously consider Barton to be a better, more worthwhile central midfielder than Scott Parker?
Yes, I do. In terms of passing range he certainly is. While he may not be as combative as Parker, he certainly has the ability to get stuck in and make a tackle, but he is more versatile and supports attacks much more frequently than Parker does. Not that I'm saying Parker is a bad player. I'd take him in a heartbeat purely on his footballing abilities but there is the attitude issue which is always lingering over him.

He certainly is a better midfielder imv, but like you say is he worthwhile with all his attitude problems? I believe so, if that can be kept in check then Sam has got a bargin.

Oh, I don't doubt for a second that Sam's got a bargain, but what I find interesting is that all the points that you make in support of Barton are the exact same points that I'd make in support of Parker

. To each his own, I suppose, but I just think back to the Scott Parker that I saw hold the entire Charlton side together. Don't get me wrong either, I'd have Barton in our midfield in the blink of an eye, I just think that Parker's the more complete model. Hey, and a bit of ho!

Daxter · Post by **Daxter** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:58 pm

Problem is Bruce Parker isn't half the player he was at Charlton. None of that leadership or him being a driving force in the midfield.

Getting shot of him for 7-8.5 million and getting Barton in is in my opinion and quite brilliant piece of business.

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:04 pm

Daxter wrote:Problem is Bruce Parker isn't half the player he was at Charlton. None of that leadership or him being a driving force in the midfield.

Getting shot of him for 7-8.5 million and getting Barton in is in my opinion and quite brilliant piece of business.

I understand exactly what you're saying, Daxter, but could similar not have been said about say Davies or Diouf? Good footballers just don't become badduns overnight, and although we seem to disagree here, I honestly think that a fully firing Scott Parker is better than a fully firing Joey Barton (who's a player that I also rate highly).

Daxter · Post by **Daxter** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:17 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Daxter wrote:Problem is Bruce Parker isn't half the player he was at Charlton. None of that leadership or him being a driving force in the midfield.

Getting shot of him for 7-8.5 million and getting Barton in is in my opinion and quite brilliant piece of business.
I understand exactly what you're saying, Daxter, but could similar not have been said about say Davies or Diouf? Good footballers just don't become badduns overnight, and although we seem to disagree here, I honestly think that a fully firing Scott Parker is better than a fully firing Joey Barton (who's a player that I also rate highly).

In what regard do you mean it could be said about Davies or Diouf?

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:28 pm

Daxter wrote: In what regard do you mean it could be said about Davies or Diouf?

I'm hoping that you don't really need me to map it out for you, and that you're just being a bit lazy here

(Hint: Players whose careers have taken a course not benefiting them)

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:25 pm

Who the hell is Bruce Parker

Daxter · Post by **Daxter** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:31 pm

Soldier_Of_The_White_Army · Post by **Soldier_Of_The_White_Army** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:33 pm

Batman wrote:Who the hell is Bruce Parker

Something his mum still coats in his coats!

malcd1 · Post by **malcd1** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:28 pm

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hli ... gpies+move

Lee Bowyer, sorry I mean Joey Barton has agreed a 5 year deal to join Newcastle.

H. Pedersen · Post by **H. Pedersen** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:05 am

I don't think this is going to pay off. For one, there is the chance of further fallout from the Dabo move. But I forsee problems throwing Barton into an uncertain, underacheiving Newcastle side with impatient fans and a number of unstable or unhappy players - Emre, Duff, Butt, Dyer, Luque, and probably Owen. Anyone else see a repeat of the Bowyer/Dyer incident in the future? Maybe I'm tooting our horn but I think he'd be better off at a club like Bolton which has a welcoming team ethic and has continually acheived success beyond our means. Oh, and we seem to love misfits.

Athers · Post by **Athers** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:18 am

I'd quite enjoy it if he battered Dyer.

In seriousness it's not a terrible piece of business from Allardyce.

H. Pedersen · Post by **H. Pedersen** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:16 am

Athers wrote:I'd quite enjoy it if he battered Dyer.

In seriousness it's not a terrible piece of business from Allardyce.

Agreed, unless he goes to jail. Imagine Allardyce makes Barton an integral part of his plans, only to see him locked up on September 1.

Oh wait, that was a dream I had last night.

Leyther_Matt · Post by **Leyther_Matt** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:46 pm

Odds on Barton smacking Big Sam on the training ground?

malcd1 · Post by **malcd1** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:54 pm

Leyther_Matt wrote:Odds on Barton smacking Big Sam on the training ground?

I don't think even Barton is that stupid but here's hoping.