Bolton Named in Stevens report

[jetsetwilly]

Well I hope you lot feel stupid now.

'Sam has done nothing wrong blah blah'

The true devil beneath is now starting to emerge. I saw it from day 1.

[Montreal Wanderer]

Well, if four of our deals on his watch are dodgy AND there was a conflict of interest with an agent, I'd say he was involved in dodgy dealings, whether or not he is ultimately found innocent.

Thats a bit tenuous. A conflict of interest with his son does not mean he was involved with dodgy dealings.

To me, since he was in charge, it means he was involved in questionable conduct and potentially dodgy deals. It doesn't mean that he is guilty of dodginess himself (and may have acted with probity), but he was nonetheless involved in deals said to be dodgy and had a fairly obvious conflict of interest.

[superjohnmcginlay]

Well, if four of our deals on his watch are dodgy AND there was a conflict of interest with an agent, I'd say he was involved in dodgy dealings, whether or not he is ultimately found innocent.

Thats a bit tenuous. A conflict of interest with his son does not mean he was involved with dodgy dealings.

To me, since he was in charge, it means he was involved in questionable conduct and potentially dodgy deals. It doesn't mean that he is guilty of dodginess himself (and may have acted with probity), but he was nonetheless involved in deals said to be dodgy and had a fairly obvious conflict of interest.

There's no basis for that statement. Was he involved? Thats the key. Im sure its been stated before that he didnt get involved in that side of the club.

Key Findings from the report:

Despite his co-operation, the Inquiry has concerns regarding the involvement of Craig Allardyce (at the time a Licensed Agent) in a number of transactions at Bolton Wanderers FC. Mr Gartside and officials currently at the Club have fully co-operated and the Inquiry has found no evidence or suggestion of any irregular payments to them. However, the following three transfers in which Craig Allardyce was involved remain uncleared:

i) Ali Al-Habsi (to Bolton Wanderers FC)
ii) Tal Ben Haim (to Bolton Wanderers FC)
iii) Blessing Kaku (to Bolton Wanderers FC)


In respect of i) above, the Inquiry also has remaining concerns about the involvement of Peter Harrison (LA) and his relationship with Craig Allardyce.

In respect of ii) and iii) above, the Inquiry has remaining, unanswered concerns about the involvement of Jamie Hart (LA) and David Abou (ULA). In the additional transfer of Julio Correia, the Inquiry has remaining, unanswered concerns regarding the involvement of the following agents in this transfer: Mike Morris (FLA), Eugenio Botas (FLA) and Francis Martin (FLA) and the possible involvement of Craig Allardyce.

The Inquiry remains concerned at the conflict of interest that it believes existed between Craig Allardyce, his father Sam Allardyce (the then manager at Bolton Wanderers) and the Club itself.

The Inquiry recommends that The FA continue with their investigation into these matters, assisted by the considerable information gathered by Quest. The Inquiry also understands that the Bolton Chairman, Mr Gartside, is prepared to share the results of the Club's own detailed investigation with the football authorities to assist in this matter. We welcome this development.

[TANGODANCER]

Well I hope you lot feel stupid now.

'Sam has done nothing wrong blah blah'

The true devil beneath is now starting to emerge. I saw it from day 1.

Surprised to see you knocking Big Sam SH. Thought you were a fan. "Horse dead flogging" etc. He's Newcastle's problem now.

[hisroyalgingerness]

It's an absolute, total lie. "A complete lie. Whoever he is, Lord Stevens, he is a liar. The people who have done this are liars. I challenge them now to take me to court and let them say that I've done something wrong in the Fabio Rochemback deal. I promise if they do, I will begin litigation and do everything in my power not just to close them down, but I will discredit them like you cannot believe. They will rue the day they were ever born. They are total liars. Every bit of money I win will go to the NSPCC.

My client believes he has been targeted because he is successful and enjoys a high profile in the football world. They could not find any wrong-doing by Mr Zahavi because there is none. If Fifa wish to investigate further he will co-operate fully with them too because he has nothing to hide

We are not at all surprised that both the club and our officials have been exonerated from the Lord Stevens Quest report.

[Montreal Wanderer]

Well, if four of our deals on his watch are dodgy AND there was a conflict of interest with an agent, I'd say he was involved in dodgy dealings, whether or not he is ultimately found innocent.

Thats a bit tenuous. A conflict of interest with his son does not mean he was involved with dodgy dealings.

To me, since he was in charge, it means he was involved in questionable conduct and potentially dodgy deals. It doesn't mean that he is guilty of dodginess himself (and may have acted with probity), but he was nonetheless involved in deals said to be dodgy and had a fairly obvious conflict of interest.

There's no basis for that statement. Was he involved? Thats the key. Im sure its been stated before that he didnt get involved in that side of the club.

I think we only have a semantic difficulty, superjohn, on the definition of 'involve' - I used it the sense of 'connected with' or, as the OED defines it, "To include within its folds or ramifications". You used it in the sense of "implicated in" or, again according to the OED, "To implicate in a charge or crime; to cause or prove (a person) to be concerned in it." Using the latter definition I accept what you say.

[communistworkethic]

Well I hope you lot feel stupid now.

'Sam has done nothing wrong blah blah'

The true devil beneath is now starting to emerge. I saw it from day 1.

Come on then Mr Fisher, how? The only question over him is the involvemnet of his retard offspring and there's no question of impropriaty on the part of the club.

[Milky_Joe]

BOLTON WANDERERS Football Club have issued the following statement in relation to the Quest enquiry:

Bolton Wanderers are pleased to receive the news that the Quest enquiry has exonerated the club and officials still employed by the club in its extensive enquiry into transfers and illegal payments.

We have cooperated fully with the enquiry team and are now prepared to share the findings of our own independent internal enquiry to help conclude the matter.

We have always maintained that the club has acted in a professional and responsible manner and feel this closes a very difficult chapter.

The club will make no further statements on this matter.

[Dr.Karl]

BOLTON WANDERERS Football Club have issued the following statement in relation to the Quest enquiry:

Bolton Wanderers are pleased to receive the news that the Quest enquiry has exonerated the club and officials still employed by the club in its extensive enquiry into transfers and illegal payments.

We have cooperated fully with the enquiry team and are now prepared to share the findings of our own independent internal enquiry to help conclude the matter.

We have always maintained that the club has acted in a professional and responsible manner and feel this closes a very difficult chapter.

The club will make no further statements on this matter.

Wonder what that means?

[Montreal Wanderer]

BOLTON WANDERERS Football Club have issued the following statement in relation to the Quest enquiry:

Bolton Wanderers are pleased to receive the news that the Quest enquiry has exonerated the club and officials still employed by the club in its extensive enquiry into transfers and illegal payments.

We have cooperated fully with the enquiry team and are now prepared to share the findings of our own independent internal enquiry to help conclude the matter.

We have always maintained that the club has acted in a professional and responsible manner and feel this closes a very difficult chapter.

The club will make no further statements on this matter.

Wonder what that means?

Along with "officials still employed by the club" it might be interpreted as they looked into it and may have asked Sam to go, promising to keep the inquiry under wraps until after the Stevens report was published. On the other hand it could mean nothing of the sort. I still feel Sam's departure was a little odd as to timing, so perhaps I'm looking for a conspiracy.

[Hoboh]

BOLTON WANDERERS Football Club have issued the following statement in relation to the Quest enquiry:

Bolton Wanderers are pleased to receive the news that the Quest enquiry has exonerated the club and officials still employed by the club in its extensive enquiry into transfers and illegal payments.
We have cooperated fully with the enquiry team and are now prepared to share the findings of our own independent internal enquiry to help conclude the matter.

We have always maintained that the club has acted in a professional and responsible manner and feel this closes a very difficult chapter.

The club will make no further statements on this matter.

Interesting that first bit of the statement

[CrazyHorse]

Why is this in Other Footy, surely it should be in The Trotters where I put it?

Not the Sam references of course but the basic thread is about Bolton for god's sake!

We could lose points next season if the FA and Premiership take a strong lead following the Tevez debacle!!

You didn't even start the thread....

[bobo the clown]

Are we talking about Sam Allardyce? You know, Newcastle's manager. Sometimes things work out for the best in the long run.

An absolute disgrace,

Newcastle must be relegated IMMEDIATELY and their manager, a Mr Allardyce, sacked, charged, jaied & quite possibly executed.

[Soldier_Of_The_White_Army]

And yet I still haven't seen one smidgen of proof!

[James B]

always suspected allardyce wasn't clean of any impropriety but didn't really care anyway

[Dartisan]

And yet I still haven't seen one smidgen of proof!

Indeed. Regarding our position this report doesn't actually say anything we didn't already know. We knew there were grounds for criticizing Sam and Craig for the blatant conflicts of interest. We knew there were umpteen dodgy agent involved in 3 or 4 particular transfers. We already knew who the players were, and who the agents were. There's still been nothing directly demonstrating payments involving Big Sam or Craig... still, it's nice to know that the club's been fully exonerated. If they do ever actually have anything to show it'll be for the Toon to deal with, mwahaha.

[Whookam]

Excellent news

[Dr.Karl]

Of the 17 transfers, four relate to Newcastle signings (Emre Belozoglu, Jean Alain Boumsong, Amady Faye, Albert Luque), four to Bolton (Ali Al-Habsi, Tal Ben Haim, Blessing Kaku, Julio Correia), three to Chelsea (Didier Drogba, Petr Cech, Michael Essien), three to Portsmouth (Collins Mbesuma, Benjani Mwaruwari, Aliou Cisse) and two to Middlesbrough (Aiyegbeni Yakubu and Fabio Rochemback) while one transfer has not been disclosed.

One transfer has not been disclosed? wtf is that all about? Why name and shame 16 players but not the 17th one?

Tevez??

There was an arrest made last week relating to the bung probe, probably the reason why that transfer hasn't been disclosed. The arrest was made in Manchester btw.

[boltonswede]

Danny, instead of checking the boards ; check ur fecking messages

[officer_dibble]

I dunno about all this really but that Allardyce geezer sounds well dodgy, ban him from football