Bolton Named in Stevens report

Penny · Post by **Penny** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:21 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Are we talking about Sam Allardyce? You know, Newcastle's manager. Sometimes things work out for the best in the long run.

Shouldn't we move this to other football as this is obviously nothing to do with us ? Seems to me this is a Newcastle problem with their current manager and a previous manager both being named .

blurred · Post by **blurred** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:21 pm

It's not funny how the law-suit failed to materialise, it's fairly apparent - he knew that dealings were dodgy, because if he was 100% sure that he was in the clear and that there had been no deals that had breached established rules then he'd've been all over the BBC like a rash (Stevens inquiry or no Stevens inquiry).

The 'I'm innocent and will consult my legal team with a view to suing [insert company/person/newspaper here]' is an oft-trotted out line by those who wish to defend themselves in public while privately hoping that their misdemeanours and indiscretions remain exactly that.

It sounds full of bluster and very categorical, but all that'll happen is the star involved will speak to his/her lawyers, who'll ask him 'well, is it true?' to which they'll reply 'well, yeah, actually' and there endeth the exercise. He has consulted his legal team and decided not to persue an action.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:24 pm

blurred wrote:It's not funny how the law-suit failed to materialise, it's fairly apparent - he knew that dealings were dodgy, because if he was 100% sure that he was in the clear and that there had been no deals that had breached established rules then he'd've been all over the BBC like a rash (Stevens inquiry or no Stevens inquiry).

The 'I'm innocent and will consult my legal team with a view to suing [insert company/person/newspaper here]' is an oft-trotted out line by those who wish to defend themselves in public while privately hoping that their misdemeanours and indiscretions remain exactly that.

It sounds full of bluster and very categorical, but all that'll happen is the star involved will speak to his/her lawyers, who'll ask him 'well, is it true?' to which they'll reply 'well, yeah, actually' and there endeth the exercise. He has consulted his legal team and decided not to persue an action.

Please don't go all Scousy-smug on us Blurred. It ain't finished yet..

Penny · Post by **Penny** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:28 pm

Sams big problem was allowing his son to become involved in Boltons transfer dealings. As the report says its (at best) a serious conflict of interests at worse who knows .

Maybe the reason Sam never sued was to protect Craig ?

Athers · Post by **Athers** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:34 pm

No evidence or suggestion of any irregular payments involving Bolton Wanderers.

No worries.

superjohnmcginlay · Post by **superjohnmcginlay** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:36 pm

I think this kind of shits on our (v slim) hope that Wet Spam are gonna be relegated over Tevez.

blurred · Post by **blurred** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:37 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Please don't go all Scousy-smug on us Blurred. It ain't finished yet..

He may well be innocent and it might just have the appearance of impropriety, but I'm amazed that if he was either a) that innocent, and/or b) that arsed about the whole thing that he hasn't yet launched this legal bid.

dannyc2 · Post by **dannyc2** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:38 pm

was the agent pictured with ferdinand Charles Collymore by any chance?

superjohnmcginlay · Post by **superjohnmcginlay** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:39 pm

hisroyalgingerness wrote:
hisroyalgingerness wrote:what's frustrating is that blessing kaku did feck all. so basically did feck all but line someone's pockets
i'm gonna expand on this

3 transfers are implicated that don't have 1 first team appearance between them, unless i blinked and missed ali al habsis

3 transfers where money from the club has potentially been leaked

someone tell me to "back sam no matter what" now

I think with Sam its just the issue of conflict of interest with Craig being the agent that this reports on about.

Dr.Karl · Post by **Dr.Karl** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:44 pm

Athers wrote:No evidence or suggestion of any irregular payments involving Bolton Wanderers.

No worries.

Aye, its implicating Sam, Souness and a few agents. None of those have got to do with Bolton now...

Sam's probable dealings have damaged the clubs reputation though.

superjohnmcginlay · Post by **superjohnmcginlay** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:46 pm

Dr.Karl wrote:
Athers wrote:No evidence or suggestion of any irregular payments involving Bolton Wanderers.

No worries.
Aye, its implicating Sam, Souness and a few agents. None of those have got to do with Bolton now...

Sam's probable dealings have damaged the clubs reputation though.

Hold yer horses fellas, they havent actually said Sam's been involved in any dodgy dealings.

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:50 pm

they've named allardyce for a "percieved conflict of interest" due to the involvement of his fat waster of a son. Nothing more.

superjohnmcginlay · Post by **superjohnmcginlay** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:54 pm

CrazyHorse wrote:
Of the 17 transfers, four relate to Newcastle signings (Emre Belozoglu, Jean Alain Boumsong, Amady Faye, Albert Luque), four to Bolton (Ali Al-Habsi, Tal Ben Haim, Blessing Kaku, Julio Correia), three to Chelsea (Didier Drogba, Petr Cech, Michael Essien), three to Portsmouth (Collins Mbesuma, Benjani Mwaruwari, Aliou Cisse) and two to Middlesbrough (Aiyegbeni Yakubu and Fabio Rochemback) while one transfer has not been disclosed.
One transfer has not been disclosed? wtf is that all about? Why name and shame 16 players but not the 17th one?

Tevez??

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:55 pm

superjohnmcginlay wrote:
Dr.Karl wrote:
Athers wrote:No evidence or suggestion of any irregular payments involving Bolton Wanderers.

No worries.
Aye, its implicating Sam, Souness and a few agents. None of those have got to do with Bolton now...

Sam's probable dealings have damaged the clubs reputation though.
Hold yer horses fellas, they havent actually said Sam's been involved in any dodgy dealings.

Well, if four of our deals on his watch are dodgy AND there was a conflict of interest with an agent, I'd say he was involved in dodgy dealings, whether or not he is ultimately found innocent.

superjohnmcginlay · Post by **superjohnmcginlay** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:12 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:
Dr.Karl wrote:
Athers wrote:No evidence or suggestion of any irregular payments involving Bolton Wanderers.

No worries.
Aye, its implicating Sam, Souness and a few agents. None of those have got to do with Bolton now...

Sam's probable dealings have damaged the clubs reputation though.
Hold yer horses fellas, they havent actually said Sam's been involved in any dodgy dealings.
Well, if four of our deals on his watch are dodgy AND there was a conflict of interest with an agent, I'd say he was involved in dodgy dealings, whether or not he is ultimately found innocent.

Thats a bit tenuous. A conflict of interest with his son does not mean he was involved with dodgy dealings.

FaninOz · Post by **FaninOz** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:14 pm

Why is this in Other Footy, surely it should be in The Trotters where I put it?

Not the Sam references of course but the basic thread is about Bolton for god's sake!

We could lose points next season if the FA and Premiership take a strong lead following the Tevez debacle!!

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:17 pm

FaninOz wrote:Why is this in Other Footy, surely it should be in The Trotters where I put it?

Not the Sam references of course but the basic thread is about Bolton for god's sake!

We could lose points next season if the FA and Premiership take a strong lead following the Tevez debacle!!

as this thread was started 2 hours before your post?

FaninOz · Post by **FaninOz** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:19 pm

communistworkethic wrote:
FaninOz wrote:Why is this in Other Footy, surely it should be in The Trotters where I put it?

Not the Sam references of course but the basic thread is about Bolton for god's sake!

We could lose points next season if the FA and Premiership take a strong lead following the Tevez debacle!!
as this thread was started 2 hours before your post?

It takes time for the internet to get to Perth you see, we are the most remote City in the World. The thread, as it relates to Bolton's past and future, is still in the wrong place.

Salford Trotter · Post by **Salford Trotter** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:21 pm

The barcodes are shitting themselves.....
http://boards.footymad.net/mboard/fmb.p ... 2132944728

Daxter · Post by **Daxter** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:21 pm

FaninOz wrote:
communistworkethic wrote:
FaninOz wrote:Why is this in Other Footy, surely it should be in The Trotters where I put it?

Not the Sam references of course but the basic thread is about Bolton for god's sake!

We could lose points next season if the FA and Premiership take a strong lead following the Tevez debacle!!
as this thread was started 2 hours before your post?
It takes time for the internet to get to Perth you see, we are the most remote City in the World. The thread, as it relates to Bolton's past and future, is still in the wrong place.

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