19 Years Ago Today...

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19 Years Ago Today...

Post by blurred » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:40 am

96 football fans went to support their side in an FA Cup semi-final, and didn't return alive. The names below are those that never came back - men in their sixties, boys as young as ten years old, brothers, fathers and sons, sisters, friends... It always strikes me when I read the list of names how some families had the grief of more than one death - Trevor Hicks lost both his daughters, but escaped alive; the Hewitt's lost both of their sons. The youngest victim, Jon-Paul Gilhooley was the cousin of Steven Gerrard. This is a tragedy that rocked not just a football club, but a whole city.

Kenny Dalglish, on the time after Hillsborough:
One morning, before everyone was in, I went out on to the pitch and tied my children's teddy bears around a goalpost at the Kop end. The goals, the pitch and the whole Kop were covered in flowers, scarves and tributes. I remember describing it as the 'saddest and most beautiful sight' I had ever seen. It really was like that. It was sad because of the reason whey the tributes were there, but it was magnificent to see them. On the Friday night, after everybody had gone, I walked through the Kop with Kelly, Paul and Marina's dad, Pat. Paul looked at all the tributes, the flowers, the scarves and said: 'Why did it have to happen to us?' Kelly, Paul and I stood at the back of the Kop with tears falling down our faces. Walking through the Kop was so emotional. A lot of tributes had been left by people in the place where their loved one had stood. People who had lost the person they stood next to to watch games would leave something special in remembrance. Seeing two oranges left beside one of the barriers really moved me. It was difficult not to weep on coming across little tributes like that. They were so insignificant and yet so full of meaning. Perhaps the two people took it in turn to bring oranges to matches, something to share at half-time. That really got to me. I wondered whether the person who laid the oranges ever returned to the Kop. I came across somebody's boots, left there by his mourning family. Everywhere I walked there were endless messages, each of which embodied someone else's grief. It was so difficult to pass through...

On the Monday, we went to Sheffield to visit the hospitals. Every single one of the players went; ever single one of them was emotional. It was such a harrowing trip. We went into a room with four or five kids lying there in comas. The doctors and nurses had been playing tapes of Liverpool matches to them, anything to trigger some response. We spoke to one of them. We had moved on a couple of beds when that wee boy woke up. People said it was my presence that stirred him, but it was nothing to do with me. It was the doctors who were treating him, not me. The doctors have the medication and the expertise. The boy would have woken up anyway. His mother was in tears. 'We'll just leave you,' I told her. Obviously everybody was ecstatic that her son was waking up but we left them because it was a private moment. It was difficult to walk through the hospital wards past all those beautiful faces just lying there. There was one wee boy lying in a coma without a mark on him, looking so peaceful. His name was Lee Nicol. He died that night.
This is not about who is to blame, or about The Sun and the ongoing boycott, or a debate on all-seater stadia - this is intended as a post to remember those innocent people who died doing what hundreds of thousands of people take for granted week-in, week-out; going and watching a football match.

http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/hi ... y-html.htm

John Alfred Anderson (62)
Colin Mark Ashcroft (19)
James Gary Aspinall (18 )
Kester Roger Marcus Ball (16)
Gerard Bernard Patrick Baron (67)
Simon Bell (17)
Barry Sidney Bennett (26)
David John Benson (22)
David William Birtle (22)
Tony Bland (22)
Paul David Brady (21)
Andrew Mark Brookes (26)
Carl Brown (18 )
David Steven Brown (25)
Henry Thomas Burke (47)
Peter Andrew Burkett (24)
Paul William Carlile (19)
Raymond Thomas Chapman (50)
Gary Christopher Church (19)
Joseph Clark (29)
Paul Clark (18 )
Gary Collins (22)
Stephen Paul Copoc (20)
Tracey Elizabeth Cox (23)
James Philip Delaney (19)
Christopher Barry Devonside (18 )
Christopher Edwards (29)
Vincent Michael Fitzsimmons (34)
Thomas Steven Fox (21)
Jon-Paul Gilhooley (10)
Barry Glover (27)
Ian Thomas Glover (20)
Derrick George Godwin (24)
Roy Harry Hamilton (34)
Philip Hammond (14)
Eric Hankin (33)
Gary Harrison (27)
Stephen Francis Harrison (31)
Peter Andrew Harrison (15)
David Hawley (39)
James Robert Hennessy (29)
Paul Anthony Hewitson (26)
Carl Darren Hewitt (17)
Nicholas Michael Hewitt (16)
Sarah Louise Hicks (19)
Victoria Jane Hicks (15)
Gordon Rodney Horn (20)
Arthur Horrocks (41)
Thomas Howard (39)
Thomas Anthony Howard (14)
Eric George Hughes (42)
Alan Johnston (29)
Christine Anne Jones (27)
Gary Philip Jones (18 )
Richard Jones (25)
Nicholas Peter Joynes (27)
Anthony Peter Kelly (29)
Michael David Kelly (38 )
Carl David Lewis (18 )
David William Mather (19)
Brian Christopher Mathews (38 )
Francis Joseph McAllister (27)
John McBrien (18 )
Marion Hazel McCabe (21)
Joseph Daniel McCarthy (21)
Peter McDonnell (21)
Alan McGlone (28 )
Keith McGrath (17)
Paul Brian Murray (14)
Lee Nicol (14)
Stephen Francis O'Neill (17)
Jonathon Owens (18 )
William Roy Pemberton (23)
Carl William Rimmer (21)
David George Rimmer (38 )
Graham John Roberts (24)
Steven Joseph Robinson (17)
Henry Charles Rogers (17)
Colin Andrew Hugh William Sefton (23)
Inger Shah (38 )
Paula Ann Smith (26)
Adam Edward Spearritt (14)
Philip John Steele (15)
David Leonard Thomas (23)
Patrik John Thompson (35)
Peter Reuben Thompson (30)
Stuart Paul William Thompson (17)
Peter Francis Tootle (21)
Christopher James Traynor (26)
Martin Kevin Traynor (16)
Kevin Tyrrell (15)
Colin Wafer (19)
Ian David Whelan (19)
Martin Kenneth Wild (29)
Kevin Daniel Williams (15)
Graham John Wright (17)
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Post by Zulus Thousand of em » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:55 am

Rest In Peace
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Post by Batman » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:10 am

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Post by Raven » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:23 am

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Post by chris » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:24 am

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Post by blurred » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:56 am

If any of you have a spare 15 mins, you could do worse than reading this - a survivor's tale of the Leppings Lane.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/ind ... c=217478.0

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Post by David Lee's Hair » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:21 pm

blurred wrote:If any of you have a spare 15 mins, you could do worse than reading this - a survivor's tale of the Leppings Lane.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/ind ... c=217478.0
Harrowing stuff.

Although I have no affiliation with Liverpool, I still remember watching in complete shock as it unfurled, a complete and utter tragedy

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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:26 pm

so many young numbers in the age brackets. a dark day

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Post by Raven » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:59 pm

Not sure anything will affect me like that day (other than anything connected to family) and i knew no one involved, not connected to Liverpool at all. that in places was harrowing stuff indeed.

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Post by LeeRoyBrown » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:10 pm

RIP

Wasn't one of those that died Gerrards cousin?

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Post by blurred » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:27 pm

LeeRoyBrown wrote:RIP

Wasn't one of those that died Gerrards cousin?
Yep:
blurred wrote:The youngest victim, Jon-Paul Gilhooley was the cousin of Steven Gerrard.
He was 10 years old.

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Post by InsaneApache » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:37 pm

I remember watching it unfold on the telly. It didn't look that bad at first. A sad day.
Here I stand foot in hand...talkin to my wall....I'm not quite right at all...am I?

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Post by WhiteArmy » Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:38 pm

Rest in Peace each and every one of them. God Bless.

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Post by Verbal » Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:59 am

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Post by LeeRoyBrown » Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:07 am

blurred wrote:
LeeRoyBrown wrote:RIP

Wasn't one of those that died Gerrards cousin?
Yep:
blurred wrote:The youngest victim, Jon-Paul Gilhooley was the cousin of Steven Gerrard.
He was 10 years old.
apologies didn't see that part.

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Post by communistworkethic » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:50 am

if only some would let them Rest in Peace
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Post by blurred » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:36 am

communistworkethic wrote:if only some would let them Rest in Peace
We'd managed to go a whole day without any snidey, barbed comments, but well done Commie, I knew I could rely on you.

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Post by boltonboris » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:43 am

blurred wrote:
communistworkethic wrote:if only some would let them Rest in Peace
We'd managed to go a whole day without any snidey, barbed comments, but well done Commie, I knew I could rely on you.
Not a day to take him on mate. He's just after a reaction

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Post by James B » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:34 pm

i just have to think of that small handful of seconds where i approached blind panic in the stands at madrid post game, when there was a brief baton charge on a few dozen wanderers

probably about 0.1% of the horror the liverpool fans faced in the terraces that day

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