Owen Coyle's Burnley

[Verbal]

knocking Chelski out of the CC. Cap is dothed.

[Puskas]

Ah, but he'll never cut it as a top flight manager. His CV's rubbish compared to Megson's. Has he ever taken a European Cup winning team down to the third tier of the league. for example?
No. Rubbish manager. Megson in.

[jimbo]

Perhaps I was being blind at the time, but I've never seen this link mentioned before...........

Coyle was on a shortlist of five at Burnley but Brendan Flood, the club’s operations director and major benefactor, said that the telephone call with McLeish and the revelation that Bolton Wanderers – where Coyle once played – had the Glaswegian on their own list before choosing Gary Megson, sealed the appointment.

Inspired choice by Burnley though. Perhaps Gartside may see him as an option next in the managerial merry-go-round at the Reebok?

[Puskas]

Perhaps I was being blind at the time, but I've never seen this link mentioned before...........

Coyle was on a shortlist of five at Burnley but Brendan Flood, the club’s operations director and major benefactor, said that the telephone call with McLeish and the revelation that Bolton Wanderers – where Coyle once played – had the Glaswegian on their own list before choosing Gary Megson, sealed the appointment.

Inspired choice by Burnley though. Perhaps Gartside may see him as an option next in the managerial merry-go-round at the Reebok?

Surely, though, Coyle was already at Burnley when we appointed Megson?

On a side note, a friend of mine is helping John McGinlay write his autobiography (although when it's coming out is anyone's guess...) McGinlay is still good friends with Coyle, and apparently he (Coyle) was considered before we appointed Megson. McGinlay is, however, convinced that Coyle will manage us at some point in the future - and, furthermore that when he does, he'll bring in Supa-John on the coaching staff...

[jimbo]

Perhaps I was being blind at the time, but I've never seen this link mentioned before...........

Coyle was on a shortlist of five at Burnley but Brendan Flood, the club’s operations director and major benefactor, said that the telephone call with McLeish and the revelation that Bolton Wanderers – where Coyle once played – had the Glaswegian on their own list before choosing Gary Megson, sealed the appointment.

Inspired choice by Burnley though. Perhaps Gartside may see him as an option next in the managerial merry-go-round at the Reebok?

Surely, though, Coyle was already at Burnley when we appointed Megson?

On a side note, a friend of mine is helping John McGinlay write his autobiography (although when it's coming out is anyone's guess...) McGinlay is still good friends with Coyle, and apparently he (Coyle) was considered before we appointed Megson. McGinlay is, however, convinced that Coyle will manage us at some point in the future - and, furthermore that when he does, he'll bring in Supa-John on the coaching staff...

The day can't come soon enough. Keep David Lee and Jimmy Phillips coaching as well.

[BWFC_Insane]

Ah, but he'll never cut it as a top flight manager. His CV's rubbish compared to Megson's. Has he ever taken a European Cup winning team down to the third tier of the league. for example?
No. Rubbish manager. Megson in.

Um point is Megson has achieved more as a manager than Coyle has so far. Its early days but there is no evidence yet that Coyle would do any better.

If he carries on as he is then he could well manage us one day!

[keveh]

MEGSON OUT!

[Bruce Rioja]

Inspired choice by Burnley though. Perhaps Gartside may see him as an option next in the managerial merry-go-round at the Reebok?

Are we not in danger of drifting into the arena of the arrogant with comments like this? I'm not singling you out here, Jimbo, similar comments have been made about Phil Brown. What makes anyone think that either of them might consider just upping-sticks to join us?

[BWFC_Insane]

Inspired choice by Burnley though. Perhaps Gartside may see him as an option next in the managerial merry-go-round at the Reebok?

Are we not in danger of drifting into the arena of the arrogant with comments like this? I'm not singling you out here, Jimbo, similar comments have been made about Phil Brown. What makes anyone think that either of them would just up-sticks to join us?

Thats true. I am reliably informed that when Lee left only 3 candidates were actually prepared to take the Bolton job.

Which I suppose is somewhat suprising, but equally despite what we think Bolton is fairly low down on most managers aspirations, even if currently they aren't in work or doing any better!

[Puskas]

Inspired choice by Burnley though. Perhaps Gartside may see him as an option next in the managerial merry-go-round at the Reebok?

Are we not in danger of drifting into the arena of the arrogant with comments like this? I'm not singling you out here, Jimbo, similar comments have been made about Phil Brown. What makes anyone think that either of them might consider just upping-sticks to join us?

I think there's big a difference between Brown and Coyle's cases. With Brown he's already in the Premier League, going to be in it next year and has a safe(ish, insofar as football management is ever secure...) job. Other than an emotional attachment, there's no reason to suppose Phil Brown would want the job here.
Coyle, on the other hand is working for Burnley. It isn't arrogant to point out that we could pay him more money than Burnley will be able to, give him a bigger transfer budget and let his teams play on a bigger stage.
All those factors would mean that it isn't unreasonable to think that Coyle may well want to come.

[Puskas]

Thats true. I am reliably informed that when Lee left only 3 candidates were actually prepared to take the Bolton job.

Which I suppose is somewhat suprising, but equally despite what we think Bolton is fairly low down on most managers aspirations, even if currently they aren't in work or doing any better!

Come on - that's just silly.
How many out-of-work managers are there?
Only three people of all of them, and those in the lower leagues, would want the huge pay-rise and prestige of managing a Premier League club?
I just don't believe that.

[Bruce Rioja]

Thats true. I am reliably informed that when Lee left only 3 candidates were actually prepared to take the Bolton job.

Which I suppose is somewhat suprising, but equally despite what we think Bolton is fairly low down on most managers aspirations, even if currently they aren't in work or doing any better!

Come on - that's just silly.
How many out-of-work managers are there?
Only three people of all of them, and those in the lower leagues, would want the huge pay-rise and prestige of managing a Premier League club?
I just don't believe that.

Candidates, Puskas.

Going back to your other point, might Coyle not look at what Brown has achieved with Hull and think that that's the route for him also?

[BWFC_Insane]

Thats true. I am reliably informed that when Lee left only 3 candidates were actually prepared to take the Bolton job.

Which I suppose is somewhat suprising, but equally despite what we think Bolton is fairly low down on most managers aspirations, even if currently they aren't in work or doing any better!

Come on - that's just silly.
How many out-of-work managers are there?
Only three people of all of them, and those in the lower leagues, would want the huge pay-rise and prestige of managing a Premier League club?
I just don't believe that.

We had a list apparently of around 10 candidates and of those 10 only 3 were prepared to take the job. Of course there would be "hundreds" of people who would take it but in terms of realistic appointments I am told that only 3 would actually take it.

If Megson went tomorrow I'd be there would be more than that though as I imagine the main factor that put managers off was the "following in Sams footsteps" and I can understand that.

[Puskas]

Thats true. I am reliably informed that when Lee left only 3 candidates were actually prepared to take the Bolton job.

Which I suppose is somewhat suprising, but equally despite what we think Bolton is fairly low down on most managers aspirations, even if currently they aren't in work or doing any better!

Come on - that's just silly.
How many out-of-work managers are there?
Only three people of all of them, and those in the lower leagues, would want the huge pay-rise and prestige of managing a Premier League club?
I just don't believe that.

Candidates, Puskas.

Going back to your other point, might Coyle not look at what Brown has achieved with Hull and think that that's the route for him also?

Whoops. Sorry....

And yes, Coyle might. But that route isn't guaranteed. Whereas a job offer would be instantaneous promotion.
And if Phil Brown had been offered a job in the Premier League, before winning promotion (not necessarily with us), he might have taken it.
I don't think it's unreasonable or arrogant, while the gap in finances remains this big between the Premier League and the rest, that we could tempt a (current) non-premier league manager to join us.

[jimbo]

Thats true. I am reliably informed that when Lee left only 3 candidates were actually prepared to take the Bolton job.

Which I suppose is somewhat suprising, but equally despite what we think Bolton is fairly low down on most managers aspirations, even if currently they aren't in work or doing any better!

Come on - that's just silly.
How many out-of-work managers are there?
Only three people of all of them, and those in the lower leagues, would want the huge pay-rise and prestige of managing a Premier League club?
I just don't believe that.

Candidates, Puskas.

Going back to your other point, might Coyle not look at what Brown has achieved with Hull and think that that's the route for him also?

Burnley and Hull are different cases IMO. There is very little local competition for Hull, whereas Burnley have Bolton, Blackburn, City, United, Wigan, Preston, Blackpool on the doorstep who are all either in the same division or higher. Hull also had a fantastic stadium given to them which they manage to fill every week, something I doubt Burnley would manage.

Hull IMO have a better foundations for success than Bolton, meaning Brown probably wouldn't come, however Burnley are nowhere near on a par with Bolton in terms of stadium, fan base, ability, facilities, budget.

[Bruce Rioja]

Hmm, if you look at attendees in relation to population then I think you'll find that Burnley are one of the best supported clubs in Britain.

[Prufrock]

Got some bloke with decent amount of money now too dont they. Remember reading something saying they wanted to rennovate and possibly expand Turd Moor.

[Lord Kangana]

As I recall he also promised free season tickets to current holders should they be promoted.

[jaffka]

Got some bloke with decent amount of money now too dont they. Remember reading something saying they wanted to rennovate and possibly expand Turd Moor.

The Cricket Field stand (away end) is coming down and will be replaced with a one tier stand.

The gap between the James Hargreaves stand (Longside) and Jimmy McIlroy Stand (Bee Hole End) will be joined. Apparently this is where the teams will change and emerge for the game, rather than at the away end.

If the development comes off (currently put back due to the credit crunch) Turf Moor on three sides should look pretty good.

As BR earlier said Burnley do have a very loyal following, however for the last couple of seasons attendences have been well down on what they can get.

[ThePosterFormerlyKnownAs]

I hope they don't do up Turf Moor. It's one of my favourite away grounds.