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How's about coz he took a team in absolute chaos, a club in turmoil, with huge debts, financial insecurities, a massively publisised court case. Managed to keep his best players together throughout January, whilst getting an extortionate price for a talented, yet disruptive and injury-prone figure in Bellamy. All the while getting West Ham in a very strong position to get a Europa ( :@ ) spot. Add in making a profit, I think he has a pretty decent case for a nomination myself.BWFC_Insane wrote:Zola? How is he on the list?
But I'd say Hodgson should definitely be there.
As should O'Neill despite recent troubles.
My winner pending their confirmation of safety is Pulis.
Every time.
Nope, but he would have got a nomination. Like this season. As I said above, if you'd asked a few weeks ago, he would probably have been a lot higher, when it looked like they were certs for a CL place, but this season, like last season, and most seasons I can remember, my vote (now, anyways) would be going to Rudolph. I missed FSW out in my earlier post, but I do think he deserves a mention. There's a title race (almost) and he takes a lot of credit for that. I've defended his managerial abilities staunchly over the past few months, and I certainly still stand by that. He's still a prick though.blurred wrote:Would any of you have given it to O'Neill last year? If not, then why this year? His side are on the same number of points as they were at this stage last year. Yeah they had a great start, but they've faded badly and will probably finish 6th.
Bit of an exaggeration that. They weren't doing so badly under Curbishley. You could say Curbishley laid a lot of the foundations for Zola, who non the less has done a good job since taking over and brought through some young players. But it should be noted said young players were there ready and waiting for him.Prufrock wrote:How's about coz he took a team in absolute chaos, a club in turmoil, with huge debts, financial insecurities, a massively publisised court case. Managed to keep his best players together throughout January, whilst getting an extortionate price for a talented, yet disruptive and injury-prone figure in Bellamy. All the while getting West Ham in a very strong position to get a Europa ( :@ ) spot. Add in making a profit, I think he has a pretty decent case for a nomination myself.BWFC_Insane wrote:Zola? How is he on the list?
But I'd say Hodgson should definitely be there.
As should O'Neill despite recent troubles.
My winner pending their confirmation of safety is Pulis.
Every time.
I agree with those saying it's too early though. A few weeks ago, O'Neill would have been a nailed on certainty, not so clearly. These awards always favour in form players/teams/mangers, which is hardly fair given it's a season long thing. How for instance is Pulis nominated, yet Phil Brown isn't. Stoke were a better side than Hull last season. Stoke had longer to prepare in the summer. Stoke have spent more money, and Stoke are one whole point above Hull. You cannot know until the season ends. Were Arsenal to win every game from now until the end of the season and somehow scrape a treble, there would be no questions Wenger would win it. Now that's very unlikely, but not unthinkable. If I had to pick now however, it would unquestionably be ol' Red Nose. Just because you expect someone to be amazing, doesn't make it any less valid when they are. They are still my favourites for every trophy they are in, and he for me is the best manager around. Honourable mentions to Moyes, O'Neill, Hodgson and Zola.
First of all, I fully understand the last sentence. I had to type that through gritted fingers (if that makes sense!), and if Zola wasn't such an affable guy I'd probably bury my head in the sand and say he was doing sh*t anyway. However, whilst they were hardly bobbins under Curbishley, he has come in with no money to be spent, and a club openly with financial and general background problems. All that in a first job whilst managing to keep your better players at the club and focussed and push for a European place surely means he is worthy of consideration? As for Steve Clarke, what, good managers need good coaches? I suppose all the other managers on that list deliberately signed rubbish ones to prove how good they are? Clarke is undoubtedly a top coach and has played a big part, but I fail to see why the media constantly push that he is the main reason for their success.BWFC_Insane wrote:Bit of an exaggeration that. They weren't doing so badly under Curbishley. You could say Curbishley laid a lot of the foundations for Zola, who non the less has done a good job since taking over and brought through some young players. But it should be noted said young players were there ready and waiting for him.Prufrock wrote:How's about coz he took a team in absolute chaos, a club in turmoil, with huge debts, financial insecurities, a massively publisised court case. Managed to keep his best players together throughout January, whilst getting an extortionate price for a talented, yet disruptive and injury-prone figure in Bellamy. All the while getting West Ham in a very strong position to get a Europa ( :@ ) spot. Add in making a profit, I think he has a pretty decent case for a nomination myself.BWFC_Insane wrote:Zola? How is he on the list?
But I'd say Hodgson should definitely be there.
As should O'Neill despite recent troubles.
My winner pending their confirmation of safety is Pulis.
Every time.
I agree with those saying it's too early though. A few weeks ago, O'Neill would have been a nailed on certainty, not so clearly. These awards always favour in form players/teams/mangers, which is hardly fair given it's a season long thing. How for instance is Pulis nominated, yet Phil Brown isn't. Stoke were a better side than Hull last season. Stoke had longer to prepare in the summer. Stoke have spent more money, and Stoke are one whole point above Hull. You cannot know until the season ends. Were Arsenal to win every game from now until the end of the season and somehow scrape a treble, there would be no questions Wenger would win it. Now that's very unlikely, but not unthinkable. If I had to pick now however, it would unquestionably be ol' Red Nose. Just because you expect someone to be amazing, doesn't make it any less valid when they are. They are still my favourites for every trophy they are in, and he for me is the best manager around. Honourable mentions to Moyes, O'Neill, Hodgson and Zola.
Also the contribution of a Steve Clarke no doubt is playing a massive part.
Just not convinced he's a real contender for manager of the year. That might be the fact that I'd rather stab my own eyes out than give it to West Ham!
What are these incredibly difficult circumstances you speak of?William the White wrote:for very decent achievement in incredibly difficult circumstances.
No fit strikers for most of the season. No serious money to spend on players. Living in Liverpool.blurred wrote:What are these incredibly difficult circumstances you speak of?William the White wrote:for very decent achievement in incredibly difficult circumstances.
Having to spend time in "Goodison Park" every 2 weeks. Christ thats as hard as it gets!William the White wrote:No fit strikers for most of the season. No serious money to spend on players. Living in Liverpool.blurred wrote:What are these incredibly difficult circumstances you speak of?William the White wrote:for very decent achievement in incredibly difficult circumstances.
Just for starters...