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i hate drogba he is a diving c***

that is all thanks for reading

He was in good company tonight. Though they were shooting Buster Crabbe's life story.

TANGODANCER wrote:He was in good company tonight. Though they were shooting Buster Crabbe's life story.

I wonder just how many members will ever have heard of Buster Crabbe, TD - the Ayatollah threw them for a loop.

Montreal Wanderer wrote:

TANGODANCER wrote:He was in good company tonight. Though they were shooting Buster Crabbe's life story.

I wonder just how many members will ever have heard of Buster Crabbe, TD - the Ayatollah threw them for a loop.

Montreal Wanderer wrote:

TANGODANCER wrote:He was in good company tonight. Though they were shooting Buster Crabbe's life story.

I wonder just how many members will ever have heard of Buster Crabbe, TD - the Ayatollah threw them for a loop.

I'm sick of diving, play acting players, well done for the ref on letting the game carry on while he was "concussed" on the floor. They should have just left him there to get trampled on. I'd love to see him get a real injury.

How do you know if someone isn't injured? If there rolling around everywhere! Why is that? Because if they really were hurt they would be staying as still as possible!!

There was a ridiculous Rooney dive yesterday towards the end of the game, where he burst in the penalty area brushed the defender and went down. It was so obvious from the second he got the ball that that was what he was going to try. Pathetic cheating bellend.

Change the rule that means a trainer can come onto the field during play, like in rugby/aussie rules and the like. That'll stop players feigning injury, and the ref can still stop the game in the event of a serious head injury/bad challenge where there's clearly a need for a stretcher.

blurred wrote:Change the rule that means a trainer can come onto the field during play, like in rugby/aussie rules and the like. That'll stop players feigning injury, and the ref can still stop the game in the event of a serious head injury/bad challenge where there's clearly a need for a stretcher.

This can't happen in football. It works well in rugby, but in football the ball pings around a lot more, mainly due to forward passing. Its a shame to not have another way to sort this problem out, other than banning players found diving using technology after the game.

Nearly all players are diving cheats. No reason to pick out Drogba. Just the way football is these days.

jenkz wrote:

blurred wrote:Change the rule that means a trainer can come onto the field during play, like in rugby/aussie rules and the like. That'll stop players feigning injury, and the ref can still stop the game in the event of a serious head injury/bad challenge where there's clearly a need for a stretcher.

This can't happen in football. It works well in rugby, but in football the ball pings around a lot more, mainly due to forward passing. Its a shame to not have another way to sort this problem out, other than banning players found diving using technology after the game.

In terms of feigning injury, it'd serve the player right to get leathered with the ball - if the injury had any degree of seriousness then play would be stopped, as it is in rugby.

Leyther_Matt wrote:

jenkz wrote:

blurred wrote:Change the rule that means a trainer can come onto the field during play, like in rugby/aussie rules and the like. That'll stop players feigning injury, and the ref can still stop the game in the event of a serious head injury/bad challenge where there's clearly a need for a stretcher.

This can't happen in football. It works well in rugby, but in football the ball pings around a lot more, mainly due to forward passing. Its a shame to not have another way to sort this problem out, other than banning players found diving using technology after the game.

In terms of feigning injury, it'd serve the player right to get leathered with the ball - if the injury had any degree of seriousness then play would be stopped, as it is in rugby.

The feigning of injuries is becoming worse than diving with players rolling round holding their heads when there has been the slightest touch or no touch at all to their heads. How many players have had to be substituted for head injuries and how many have missed games for concussion injuries??? There have been a few bad cuts where players have come back on looking like the mummy, but very few seem to have to go of permanently or miss future games because of concussion. So players and managers are using the rules to breakup the game, particularly when the oppostion have the ball and are on a breakaway. I'm sure that players are told to stay down and look injured even when they aren't.

Can't see why physios can't come on while play continues, sometimes they would get in the way but that would add a bit more fun to the game.

Certainly technology should be used to retrospectively penalise players for feigning injury and diving, and certainly in live play for penalties, goal line clearances and dangerous tackles. Technology exists and is used in other sports, its been discussed many times before but I don't believe that its use would disrupt the game any more than the existing refs on the field do now. The Ref could allow the game to flow, effectively playing the advantage rule, but coming back to an earlier "problem" should the video ref say there is a need too. If it takes the video ref more than a few seconds to make a decision then its too close to call and benefit of the doubt needs to be given and play continue as normal.

Just imagine the suspense when a ball is cleared off the line and play continues but everyone knows that the video ref is reviewing the situation and a few seconds later gives his decision, goal or no goal. Similarly for penalties, bad tackles and/or hand balls that the ref isn't sure of, he allows the game to continue, but the video ref can call the game back after a few seconds to get the correct decision such that I believe it would add to the games enjoyment. At least there would be a significant improvement in the number of accurate decisions.

Two points......

1) If the physio comes on to look after a defender who's down while play continues, is said defender playing the attackers onside or offside? Does he have to go off the field and come back on, or does he just get up and get on with it? If so, at what point does he become active in play again?

2) While obvious cases should be dealt with, there is no available technology that'll tell you if someone is really hurt or not. If we're starting to fine players and brand them as cheats, it would have to be clear and obvious cases.

Tombwfc wrote:Two points......

1) If the physio comes on to look after a defender who's down while play continues, is said defender playing the attackers onside or offside? Does he have to go off the field and come back on, or does he just get up and get on with it? If so, at what point does he become active in play again?

That can be debated, but off the top of my head I'd argue that while the player is on the pitch and being treated by the physio then he's not deemed to be 'active' in either an offside or in a playing anyone onside sense. He then has to leave the pitch and re-enter at the referee's permission, as he does now. In the current incarnation the game stops, he goes off and comes back on almost immediately, earning his side a nice rest, stopping the flow of the play, etc. In the new version, his side have to play with 10 men for a minute or more, and gain no advantage from him staying down and feigning injury.

There's probably some big problem I'm ignoring, but off the top of my head that seems fine to me - a player either stays down a needs a physio, or it's a small knock than can be run off pretty quickly. Let the game carry on, and you'll have less of the whinging ponces interrupting it, they'll just have to get up and dust themselves off and carry on.

Tombwfc wrote:2) While obvious cases should be dealt with, there is no available technology that'll tell you if someone is really hurt or not. If we're starting to fine players and brand them as cheats, it would have to be clear and obvious cases.

On the TV it's pretty obvious, and I reckon I could get at least 9/10 right whether a player will continue in the game or not, and that's being fairly conservative. How many times do players go down 'injured' in a match, and how often does that injury result in them being taken off? The number of 'injuries' compared to substitutions must be pretty overwhelming.

The guidance at the start of the season was that clubs should not kick the ball out of play for any player down injured, that play would continue unless the referee whistled to stop the game. That lasted all of about 10 minutes before the status quo was resumed.