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Needed.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/3207746/, palace lost 1-0...

Couldn't happen to a nicer, more impartial bloke, too.

Verbal wrote:Couldn't happen to a nicer, more impartial bloke, too.

Totally and utterly irrelevant.

We're WAY overdue technology in the game, imagine the ramifications if it were Man Utd in the FA Cup final. Wonder if it'd be different.

Warnock makes a point though, they should have let them go down and score a goal, but then, it's naive to believe any kind of sportmanship still exists in this game.

If that goal is counted then the whole game changes... Probably in palaces favour

FD wrote:

Verbal wrote:Couldn't happen to a nicer, more impartial bloke, too.

Totally and utterly irrelevant.

We're WAY overdue technology in the game, imagine the ramifications if it were Man Utd in the FA Cup final. Wonder if it'd be different.

Warnock makes a point though, they should have let them go down and score a goal, but then, it's naive to believe any kind of sportmanship still exists in this game.

tongue firmly in cheek, my friend. He does seem to be on the wrong end of controversy a lot though. Karma, or causal? Idk.

Obviously, goal line technology shouldn't be a case of 'if' at all. You have to expect human error on occassion and if the technology is there to clear up debates then it should be used.

Nah, I know mate, wasn't meaning to have a go!

Regardless of goal-line technology, Gary Johnson has all but admitted that he'd seen it. What a nice person that makes him look.

But yeah, I'm not in favour of using technology for other decisions, but for something black and white like "Did it cross the line?" it's amazing how it still doesn't appear to be close to being implemented.

Goal line technology would be fine, I just don't want the game stopping every 2 minutes for refs to check whatever doubftul decision. It would kill the game.

Didn't a Gary Johnson side a few years ago allow the other team to score when his own side accidentally scored from a drop ball, and on his orders? Seems odd to do it then and not now.

And yes if the technology is there it should be used. Obviously for the sake of competition, but also, football is a massive business nowadays, that people have invested a lot of their cash in it. You'd be a bit peeved if the company you'd put millions on got knackered because there were archaic rules saying people had to guess at the FTSE.

Village_Idiot2 wrote:Goal line technology would be fine, I just don't want the game stopping every 2 minutes for refs to check whatever doubftul decision. It would kill the game.

But think of the excitement with goals scored every 2 minutes.

Prufrock wrote:Didn't a Gary Johnson side a few years ago allow the other team to score when his own side accidentally scored from a drop ball, and on his orders? Seems odd to do it then and not now.

Indeed, in a League cup match for Yeovil against Plymouth. His son scored the goal.

My mind might have been changed by recent events, but I'm amazed at how the lino hasn't seen that it's passed the line, even when he should have been twelve yards away from the goal line by being with the last man. The only possible thing obscuring his view would be his near post, and even then he could, from his position, see the far post to know that it's gone past that, yet not far enough to hit the ad boards.

I've yet to see an occasion when a player or manager has gone to the referee and rectified a ref's mistake by awarding the opposition something. But answer me this - had it been Bolton been in the shoes of Bristol City this and Megson had instructed a team to let a goal in, how would you react?

I'd be incredibly proud.

I'd think it was fair enough.

This isn't like a dodgy penalty decision or other debateable occurances, Palace actually scored.

If it were us I'd be annoyed that we'd conceded in the first place mind.

Village_Idiot2 wrote:Goal line technology would be fine, I just don't want the game stopping every 2 minutes for refs to check whatever doubftul decision. It would kill the game.

Oh come on, VI. I really have come to expect better from you than glib comments like that. I'll happily be proved wrong, but the only such incedent springing to my mind at our place was the header against Everton on The 'Bok's opening night.
That's one in 12 years at our place. As I say, there may be more, but to my mind these things tend to happen about once a season throughout the leagues, and as proved to be the case in 1997, an entire season can hinge on it.

OK, let me give another question. Put yourselves in Megson's shoes, and it happens. Given the subterranean view that a large number of fans have for him, and it happens, would you understand him not letting the opposition go and score?

Bruce Rioja wrote:

Village_Idiot2 wrote:Goal line technology would be fine, I just don't want the game stopping every 2 minutes for refs to check whatever doubftul decision. It would kill the game.

Oh come on, VI. I really have come to expect better from you than glib comments like that. I'll happily be proved wrong, but the only such incedent springing to my mind at our place was the header against Everton on The 'Bok's opening night.
That's one in 12 years at our place. As I say, there may be more, but to my mind these things tend to happen about once a season throughout the leagues, and as proved to be the case in 1997, an entire season can hinge on it.

And it's good enough for other sports, so football shouldn't be immune. The game already has enough stoppages for players rolling about the floor pretending to be injured. Get referees to sort that out and then the game will flow better. And I'd rather stop for a correct decision to be made with video replays rather than have football killed by a rash of poor and unjustifiable actions that could make a big difference to clubs' fortunes at the end of a closely fought season.

Ideal solution would be a buzzer on the ref's wrist or something, instant and decisive - the ref can just point for a goal as he would normally.

Athers wrote:Ideal solution would be a buzzer on the ref's wrist or something, instant and decisive - the ref can just point for a goal as he would normally.

Buzzer on mike rileys watch would not stop him from disallowing bolton a goal... he would just say it diddnt go off.

Bruce Rioja wrote:

Village_Idiot2 wrote:Goal line technology would be fine, I just don't want the game stopping every 2 minutes for refs to check whatever doubftul decision. It would kill the game.

Oh come on, VI. I really have come to expect better from you than glib comments like that. I'll happily be proved wrong, but the only such incedent springing to my mind at our place was the header against Everton on The 'Bok's opening night.
That's one in 12 years at our place. As I say, there may be more, but to my mind these things tend to happen about once a season throughout the leagues, and as proved to be the case in 1997, an entire season can hinge on it.

I probably didn't explain myself well enough. I mean that I'm okay with goal line technology since these incidents are uncommon enough. But I would keep it at that. If we have to recheck penalty calls, sending offs, etc... I think it would be bad for the flow of the game.

Village_Idiot2 wrote:

Bruce Rioja wrote:

Village_Idiot2 wrote:Goal line technology would be fine, I just don't want the game stopping every 2 minutes for refs to check whatever doubftul decision. It would kill the game.

Oh come on, VI. I really have come to expect better from you than glib comments like that. I'll happily be proved wrong, but the only such incedent springing to my mind at our place was the header against Everton on The 'Bok's opening night.
That's one in 12 years at our place. As I say, there may be more, but to my mind these things tend to happen about once a season throughout the leagues, and as proved to be the case in 1997, an entire season can hinge on it.

I probably didn't explain myself well enough. I mean that I'm okay with goal line technology since these incidents are uncommon enough. But I would keep it at that. If we have to recheck penalty calls, sending offs, etc... I think it would be bad for the flow of the game.

I think it was me that didn't read it properly

We do, of course, agree.