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Wow how long since they have been in the top flight? Only been back up in the Championship for 3 seasons as well!

So Forest v Blackpool and Cardiff v Leicester who were also recently in Div 1.

Wouldn't expect any of those sides to do much in the Premiership next season.

Sheff Wednesday went down to Div 1 by the way after a 2-2 draw at home to financially threatened Crystal Palace!

They can shove their Blackpool tower up their arse.

I'm made up for them, and for Ian Holloway - lovely bloke, even if he talks nonsense 90% of the time.

I hope they do it... It'd be a fantastic away trip and another derby

CrazyHorse wrote:They can shove their Blackpool tower up their arse.

Ouch!


I'm sure fans of half the Premiership sides are hoping Blackpool can come up just for the awayday alone. Somehow I can't see us playing them at 3pm or 5pm on a Saturday if they did make it up, from what I can gather our rivalry with them in years gone by is "tasty" to say the least?

boltonboris wrote:I hope they do it... It'd be a fantastic away trip and another derby

... it always used to be Boxing Day afternoon. Get on the train, arrive around 12noon, get bladdered in Yates' on their 'draft champagne' and Guinness and stumble into the ground at about 3.15pm unable to see a blind thing.

Back into town after the obligatory win & get back home, utterly pished at about 11pm. "Had a good day dear ?"?, "Dunno, can't remember !"

Now THAT's a boxing day !

P.O.S. wrote:

CrazyHorse wrote:They can shove their Blackpool tower up their arse.

Ouch!


I'm sure fans of half the Premiership sides are hoping Blackpool can come up just for the awayday alone. Somehow I can't see us playing them at 3pm or 5pm on a Saturday if they did make it up, from what I can gather our rivalry with them in years gone by is "tasty" to say the least?

I think the first killing at a football ground ever was at this fixture in - I think - 1974. Certainly about that. A Blackpool supporter was stabbed by a Bolton fan. The Blackpool fans decided that the person responsible was a black supporter (possibly the only one in the ground in those days) and set up a bunch of chants about getting 'the nigger'. The police arrested him. He was remanded in custody for - i think - more than six months, tried for murder, found not guilty. He didn't do it, you see, and was lucky to get an honest jury, i guess.

The following season, IIRC, I saw a Blackburn fan being helped out of Ewood with blood pouring from a stab wound in his stomach...

I really don't want to be pompous here - but let's not use the word 'tasty' when talking about football-related violence...

But - Blackpool was often a great away trip. esp early or late season, with football on the sands and all the joys of what was still a thriving place... unlike the mess it sems to me to be now...

And hope they win promotion (only two spots to wory about then...)

Not the story I heard.

Horrible, toilet of a place with horrible obnoxious fans.

Hope they go up to come crashing straight back down.

Gidong wrote:Not the story I heard.

Interesting. What did you hear?

Gidong wrote:Not the story I heard.

just done some research - Kevin Olsson was the name of the 17 years old supporter killed... it was August 1974... i was there when the blackpool fans were chanting 'we want the nigger'... a black supporter was arrested... i'm ALMOST certain about this, and was tried and found not guilty...

where is the innacuracy?

I think it is better we don't discuss this one.

Gidong wrote:I think it is better we don't discuss this one.

had you not come over all mysterious - there'd have been no discussion!

My apologies for the firsts reply - hindsight is a great thing.

enough said.

William the White wrote:

P.O.S. wrote:

CrazyHorse wrote:They can shove their Blackpool tower up their arse.

Ouch!


I'm sure fans of half the Premiership sides are hoping Blackpool can come up just for the awayday alone. Somehow I can't see us playing them at 3pm or 5pm on a Saturday if they did make it up, from what I can gather our rivalry with them in years gone by is "tasty" to say the least?

I think the first killing at a football ground ever was at this fixture in - I think - 1974. Certainly about that. A Blackpool supporter was stabbed by a Bolton fan. The Blackpool fans decided that the person responsible was a black supporter (possibly the only one in the ground in those days) and set up a bunch of chants about getting 'the nigger'. The police arrested him. He was remanded in custody for - i think - more than six months, tried for murder, found not guilty. He didn't do it, you see, and was lucky to get an honest jury, i guess.

The following season, IIRC, I saw a Blackburn fan being helped out of Ewood with blood pouring from a stab wound in his stomach...

I really don't want to be pompous here - but let's not use the word 'tasty' when talking about football-related violence...

But - Blackpool was often a great away trip. esp early or late season, with football on the sands and all the joys of what was still a thriving place... unlike the mess it sems to me to be now...

And hope they win promotion (only two spots to wory about then...)

WtW.


Tried - found not guilty.


Unless you want to pursue a private prosecution, leave off. and stop being all "flowery" about it, because you probably have as much "notion" as me - unless you were a witness.

Worthy4England wrote:

William the White wrote:

P.O.S. wrote:

CrazyHorse wrote:They can shove their Blackpool tower up their arse.

Ouch!


I'm sure fans of half the Premiership sides are hoping Blackpool can come up just for the awayday alone. Somehow I can't see us playing them at 3pm or 5pm on a Saturday if they did make it up, from what I can gather our rivalry with them in years gone by is "tasty" to say the least?

I think the first killing at a football ground ever was at this fixture in - I think - 1974. Certainly about that. A Blackpool supporter was stabbed by a Bolton fan. The Blackpool fans decided that the person responsible was a black supporter (possibly the only one in the ground in those days) and set up a bunch of chants about getting 'the nigger'. The police arrested him. He was remanded in custody for - i think - more than six months, tried for murder, found not guilty. He didn't do it, you see, and was lucky to get an honest jury, i guess.

The following season, IIRC, I saw a Blackburn fan being helped out of Ewood with blood pouring from a stab wound in his stomach...

I really don't want to be pompous here - but let's not use the word 'tasty' when talking about football-related violence...

But - Blackpool was often a great away trip. esp early or late season, with football on the sands and all the joys of what was still a thriving place... unlike the mess it sems to me to be now...

And hope they win promotion (only two spots to wory about then...)

WtW.


Tried - found not guilty.


Unless you want to pursue a private prosecution, leave off. and stop being all "flowery" about it, because you probably have as much "notion" as me - unless you were a witness.

Who on earth would I want to prosecute? What does 'flowery' mean? I didn't witness the crime, I never claimed I did. I did witness the Blackpool fans shouting 'We want the nigger'.

Have you done some more research that can confirm he was tried and found not guilty, which is my memory, though, obviously fallible? Or were charges dropped? I've been trying to find out since Gidong raised a query about my post.

I really don't follow what you are saying in your post, tho you do seem to be annoyed at me. Why?

William the White wrote:

Worthy4England wrote:

William the White wrote:

P.O.S. wrote:

CrazyHorse wrote:They can shove their Blackpool tower up their arse.

Ouch!


I'm sure fans of half the Premiership sides are hoping Blackpool can come up just for the awayday alone. Somehow I can't see us playing them at 3pm or 5pm on a Saturday if they did make it up, from what I can gather our rivalry with them in years gone by is "tasty" to say the least?

I think the first killing at a football ground ever was at this fixture in - I think - 1974. Certainly about that. A Blackpool supporter was stabbed by a Bolton fan. The Blackpool fans decided that the person responsible was a black supporter (possibly the only one in the ground in those days) and set up a bunch of chants about getting 'the nigger'. The police arrested him. He was remanded in custody for - i think - more than six months, tried for murder, found not guilty. He didn't do it, you see, and was lucky to get an honest jury, i guess.

The following season, IIRC, I saw a Blackburn fan being helped out of Ewood with blood pouring from a stab wound in his stomach...

I really don't want to be pompous here - but let's not use the word 'tasty' when talking about football-related violence...

But - Blackpool was often a great away trip. esp early or late season, with football on the sands and all the joys of what was still a thriving place... unlike the mess it sems to me to be now...

And hope they win promotion (only two spots to wory about then...)

WtW.


Tried - found not guilty.


Unless you want to pursue a private prosecution, leave off. and stop being all "flowery" about it, because you probably have as much "notion" as me - unless you were a witness.

Who on earth would I want to prosecute? What does 'flowery' mean? I didn't witness the crime, I never claimed I did. I did witness the Blackpool fans shouting 'We want the nigger'.

Have you done some more research that can confirm he was tried and found not guilty, which is my memory, though, obviously fallible? Or were charges dropped? I've been trying to find out since Gidong raised a query about my post.

I really don't follow what you are saying in your post, tho you do seem to be annoyed at me. Why?

Mr the White,

I'm never really annoyed, it doesn't fit my character.


It was the "I guess" bit at the end, that disturbed me.

I can confirm that the youth was tried and found not guilty. I knew him. There were two guys, him being one, suspected of the offence. I knew them both. I cannot remember if the other one actually went to court, after all this time.

I saw the lad who got killed, before the game. (He was stabbed during the half-time interval and either died in hospital or was dead on arrival, I'm not sure.) He was a big blonde haired lad, as I recall - and an amateur boxer, from local newspaper reports at the time. I saw some of the worst football violence that I ever experienced that day, both before and after the incident - from both sets of supporters. I'm glad that those days have gone.

Incidentally WtW, there were quite a few Bolton fans of West Indian origin at the game. The Blackpool police, in their ineptitude, pulled as many as they could and held them all until after midnight before releasing them. My brother did not arrive home until around 2.00am because the driver of the car that he had travelled in was a half caste (I'm not sure if that's a PC term any more, but that's how we referred to the offspring of West Indian and English parents in those days.) Neither my brother or his friend had anything whatsoever to do with the incident, apart from being on the Blackpool Kop (along with thousands of other Bolton fans on the day.)

It was the same day on which Alan Waldron broke his leg badly, following an innocuous tackle. He played again - but was never the same player as before.

William the White wrote:

Gidong wrote:Not the story I heard.

just done some research - Kevin Olsson was the name of the 17 years old supporter killed... it was August 1974... i was there when the blackpool fans were chanting 'we want the nigger'... a black supporter was arrested... i'm ALMOST certain about this, and was tried and found not guilty...

where is the innacuracy?

I too was there that day. Got a brick on me kneecap for my efforts as well. Ghastly day.

Wasn't the black chap called *** ********? Can't find anything on the net so far.

Decided not to name the guy.

InsaneApache wrote: I too was there that day. Got a brick on me kneecap for my efforts as well. Ghastly day.

Wasn't the black chap called *** ********? Can't find anything on the net so far.

Decided not to name the guy.

Thanks for that Insane. Please don't name the guy who was acquitted. It was a long time ago - and he was found to be not guilty.