England v. Hungary

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England v. Hungary

Post by Gary the Enfield » Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:16 pm

Anyone watching?

Possible debut for Cahill!

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Post by FD » Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:27 pm

ENGLAND:Hart; G Johnson, Terry, Jagielka, A Cole; Barry, Lampard, Gerrard, Walcott, A Johnson; Rooney

Jagielka, back from injury and in straight ahead of Cahill.

It still baffles me why people think Barry is so good.

Why call up Wilshere and Gibbs to chuck em on the bench? No wonder the managers are raging about this friendly.

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Post by boltonboris » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:39 pm

FD wrote:ENGLAND:Hart; G Johnson, Terry, Jagielka, A Cole; Barry, Lampard, Gerrard, Walcott, A Johnson; Rooney

Jagielka, back from injury and in straight ahead of Cahill.

It still baffles me why people think Barry is so good.

Why call up Wilshere and Gibbs to chuck em on the bench? No wonder the managers are raging about this friendly.
Not to mention pulling them out of the U21's! Ridiculous

Bright start by England, seems to have tailed off now though. Barry looks slow, Gerrard despite some excellent touches and passes, tries the spectacular far too often. He's the reason our ball turnover is shite! a dozen times already, he's had a 5 yard pass on, but given it away trying to fizz daisy cutters to Rooney on his own.

Rooney as a front man is fine, but we're giving him 50 yard balls to chase. We need to use the flanks and get to the byline
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Post by FD » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:57 pm

Rooney only works in a 4-5-1 if he's an attacking part of the 5. He can't play lone striker, he's not disciplined enough.

Johnson is impressing me, but then I thought he should have gone to the World Cup. Walcott also having one of his good games as well. Lampard looks good too.

As I said, no idea why people rate Barry, I think I'm quicker than him! Constantly giving away silly fouls because he can't keep up with play.

Rather surprised that there was no moments silence for the young Exeter lad, nor any armbands.

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Post by boltonboris » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:34 pm

It's the first time I've said this, but if Rooney doesn't fit into Capello's system, then he HAS to drop him. We look so much more balanced when he's not (running around like a lunatic on the edge of his own box) playing. He's never anywhere near the ball
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Post by Athers » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:37 pm

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:45 pm

FD wrote:ENGLAND:Hart; G Johnson, Terry, Jagielka, A Cole; Barry, Lampard, Gerrard, Walcott, A Johnson; Rooney

Jagielka, back from injury and in straight ahead of Cahill.

It still baffles me why people think Barry is so good.

Why call up Wilshere and Gibbs to chuck em on the bench? No wonder the managers are raging about this friendly.
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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:50 pm

Not chuffed that Jagielka's considered ahead of Cahill, that puts him some way down the pecking order. I don't rate him higher myself

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Post by FD » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:51 pm

No Cahill again.

Time to find out if you have any Irish/welsh/Scottish roots Gary because you are not even fourth choice. I wouldn't blame him for wanting to move clubs either.

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Post by DJBlu » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:54 pm

hisroyalgingerness wrote:Not chuffed that Jagielka's considered ahead of Cahill, that puts him some way down the pecking order. I don't rate him higher myself
I wouldn't look at Jagielka as the one who gets in before but Dawson? The guy was a liability.

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Post by FD » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:56 pm

Ahead of Cahill now :

Terry
Ferdinand
Dawson
Upson
Jagielka
King

Any I've forgotten?

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:59 pm

FD wrote:Ahead of Cahill now :

Terry
Ferdinand
Dawson
Upson
Jagielka
King

Any I've forgotten?
Are Upson and King still in the mix? (I haven't been following things closely, if at all, tbh)
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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:59 pm

a half fit Carragher

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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:59 pm

hisroyalgingerness wrote:a half fit Carragher
Sorry, a half-fit, retired Carragher

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Post by jaffka » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:01 pm

feckin rubbish, that he was once again kept out

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Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:03 pm

For me it was decidedly better. We were short on confidence and Desperate Danny needs to score goals. You can almost sense the frustration in his play. We played first half with that established sense of arrogance we no longer deserve. Too slow to react and waiting for the ball to come to us against faster opposition. Second half proved that if you want to play for your country you have to play your guts out. The new lads were hungry for it and played at speed and with confidence. Stevie Me has had (and deserved) a lot of stick but, although playing really deep he got in there and did the business with two great goals. Their "goal" wasn't, but at least we played with some pride and fire. Well done all the new lads, Adam Johnson in particular. Better.
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Post by officer_dibble » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:03 pm

Thanks for calling him up Fabio...fecking pointless

Hope he retires like everyone else.

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Post by Tombwfc » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:32 pm

FD wrote:Ahead of Cahill now :

Terry
Ferdinand
Dawson
Upson
Jagielka
King

Any I've forgotten?
King and Upson have surely been retired. Ferdinand is heading that way.

So he's not doing that badly at all. People need to calm down I think.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:53 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Desperate Danny needs to score goals.
Who? :conf:
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Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:59 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Desperate Danny needs to score goals.
Who? :conf:
Just my name for Rooney. :wink:

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