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Ronaldo wanted out....and left.

So did Vidic but was persuaded to stay...just.

Now Rooney wants out and has been supposedly causing a load of shit to get his way.

What are they left with after that?

An ageing squad without real top top talent. The likes of Berbatov and Nani are good good players but they're not championship winning types and certainly not likely to be mainstays of a champions league winning team.

Glazers racking up the debt, interest payments skyrocketing. Probably need to sell a few more players.

OAP as manager who quite clearly has been brilliant but does he know how to manage modern day footballers? The Rooney episode suggests possibly not.

Think all this deserves a celebratory drink or two tonight.

football is cyclical. just some teams have longer cycles than others. Teams like Soton and Coventry were mere 3rd and fourth division fodder before the end of the 60's yet both spent over 26 years each in the top flight from the 70's onwards and many regard them as bigger and more famous than bolton.

Liverpool have not won the league since 1990 but in the 70's and 80's who would have predicted that?, they will finish in the bottom half of the premier this term imo. Who in 1968 would have predicted that utd would not win the league again until the early nineties? that Citeh in 76 would not win a trophy for the next 34 years?

if asked in 1992 would bolton get back into the top flight and stay there for 10 years i would have thought them stupid.

it looks to me that the top tier of europe will soon be a 4 team affair of chelsea citeh, barca and real. with teams like utd, arse, spurs bayern, the milan two in the next tier but with utd slipping.

will i celebrate utds downfall. No! cause that to me would be just like them there geeks at Gigg lane celebrating bwfc getting relegated from the premier. thats just shiite.

Big_Girl_Oral_Explosion wrote:football is cyclical. just some teams have longer cycles than others. Teams like Soton and Coventry were mere 3rd and fourth division fodder before the end of the 60's yet both spent over 26 years each in the top flight from the 70's onwards and many regard them as bigger and more famous than bolton.

Liverpool have not won the league since 1990 but in the 70's and 80's who would have predicted that?, they will finish in the bottom half of the premier this term imo. Who in 1968 would have predicted that utd would not win the league again until the early nineties? that Citeh in 76 would not win a trophy for the next 34 years?

if asked in 1992 would bolton get back into the top flight and stay there for 10 years i would have thought them stupid.

it looks to me that the top tier of europe will soon be a 4 team affair of chelsea citeh, barca and real. with teams like utd, arse, spurs bayern, the milan two in the next tier but with utd slipping.

will i celebrate utds downfall. No! cause that to me would be just like them there geeks at Gigg lane celebrating bwfc getting relegated from the premier. thats just shiite.

Good. More champagne for me!

while this is all well and good that united are falling apart, i never like to see quality players leave the prem. hopefully he goes to city; which would be great, just great.

Somewhere amongst all this it might occur that Rooney, a bit of a plonker by all accounts, is a multi-millionare from football
and it might just need pointing out that a lot of it is down to Fergsson and United. His petulance on the pitch and behaviour off it make me think more a kick up the ass than £150,000 a week. Priorities needed somewhere.

Gazza mark II coming up.

You read it here first.

and wonder if the scousers had a 10% 'sell on' clause built in? If he went for £80/£100m in January that could be a nice little earner for Kenwright

Lord Kangana wrote:Gazza mark II coming up.

You read it here first.

Yip.. I think red nose is the only person stopping Rooney from being an absolute pisspot trainwreck

Salford Trotter wrote:and wonder if the scousers had a 10% 'sell on' clause built in? If he went for £80/£100m in January that could be a nice little earner for Kenwright

i think its 25% of anything over what united paid for him, dont have anything concrete to back that up though, just what ive been reading around the internet comments

BWFC_Insane wrote:Ronaldo wanted out....and left.

So did Vidic but was persuaded to stay...just.

Now Rooney wants out and has been supposedly causing a load of shit to get his way.

What are they left with after that?

An ageing squad without real top top talent. The likes of Berbatov and Nani are good good players but they're not championship winning types and certainly not likely to be mainstays of a champions league winning team.

Glazers racking up the debt, interest payments skyrocketing. Probably need to sell a few more players.

OAP as manager who quite clearly has been brilliant but does he know how to manage modern day footballers? The Rooney episode suggests possibly not.

Think all this deserves a celebratory drink or two tonight.

3 League titles, 2 League cups and a Champions League in the last five years?

thevza wrote:

Salford Trotter wrote:and wonder if the scousers had a 10% 'sell on' clause built in? If he went for £80/£100m in January that could be a nice little earner for Kenwright

i think its 25% of anything over what united paid for him, dont have anything concrete to back that up though, just what ive been reading around the internet comments

That's what it says & was just on TV too.

They paid £20m ... with an extra £7m on performances (which I assume he achieved), so Everton could get as much as £15-20m from it. Not bad for a player they sold 6 years ago.

bobo the clown wrote:

thevza wrote:

Salford Trotter wrote:and wonder if the scousers had a 10% 'sell on' clause built in? If he went for £80/£100m in January that could be a nice little earner for Kenwright

i think its 25% of anything over what united paid for him, dont have anything concrete to back that up though, just what ive been reading around the internet comments

That's what it says & was just on TV too.

They paid £20m ... with an extra £7m on performances (which I assume he achieved), so Everton could get as much as £15-20m from it. Not bad for a player they sold 6 years ago.

Wow, with the money they make they could buy him themselves for £5m and United would still owe them £10 to £15m.

Oh, and just in case.

TANGODANCER wrote:Somewhere amongst all this it might occur that Rooney, a bit of a plonker by all accounts, is a multi-millionare from football
and it might just need pointing out that a lot of it is down to Fergsson and United. .

Nah he was a multi millionaire in waiting after his performance in euro 2004, as was Owen after his 90 mins in the WC 1998 in one last 16 game.

SAF did nothing but sign a very gifted footballer for utd. Rooneys riches are purely down to his own ability and skill on the pitch.

most press pundits itk believe the fee will be 40 mill or even less given the current circumstances.

Lord Kangana wrote:Gazza mark II coming up.

You read it here first.

No I didn't, not even nearly.

But you're right on the first bit

I'm not sure his value is anywhere close to 50 million

18 months on his contract, totally off form...head fcuked

If City are a no, no, they aint getting 50 million

CAPSLOCK wrote:I'm not sure his value is anywhere close to 50 million

18 months on his contract, totally off form...head fcuked

If City are a no, no, they aint getting 50 million

Aye. Only City would pay £50m for him right now but Ferguson will do anything to avoid selling him to another Prem club.

I have to say I don't get this. Where would Rooney go that would be better for his career?

bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:I have to say I don't get this. Where would Rooney go that would be better for his career?

City....lots of money to chuck at stuff and to give Rooney himself.

Man Utd on the other hand, large and growing debt, ageing squad, manager who can't carry on much longer.....

I can't really see a case for why he wouldn't want to double his salary and go to City.

bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:I have to say I don't get this. Where would Rooney go that would be better for his career?

City or Real.