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I didn't know that Liverpool refuse to play matches on the 15th of April - the anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster, until i saw online today that Alan Davies (comedian and Arsenal fan) has been slated on twitter for saying on radio that they should get on and play their FA Cup semi against Everton on Sunday 15th (when the other semi is taking place) and not on Saturday the 14th. (Argument being Chelsea have to play on the Sunday not the Saturday when they'd probably prefer to play on the Saturday given they have an important CL game mid week)

I don't really remember Hillsborough like most of you will do, but i do have some sympathy with Davies on this one. Ok, so manage, some fans and back room staff may well remember Hillsborough but chances are it will mean not a lot to many of their foreign player being that it was so many years ago and as professionals, shouldn't let it distract them from doing their jobs anyway.

Also, as Davies pointed out, where do you draw the line? Liverpool play on the day of the Heysel disaster, is there a difference? Manchester United play on the day of the Munich disaster etc. Would it not be more of a fitting tribute to go out and play on that day and win it for the club and their fans?

Playing devils advocate a bit here, just interested to know what others think...

Heard the furore about this on the way in this morning and for the first, and probably last, time in my life I'm in 100% full agreement with Alan Davies.

Spot on GG.

Of course the Liverpool game should be on the Sunday to help Chelsea have a better chance in the champions league.

BWFC_Insane wrote:Spot on GG.

Of course the Liverpool game should be on the Sunday to help Chelsea have a better chance in the champions league.

Theres always one... Pedant.

Gooner Girl wrote:

BWFC_Insane wrote:Spot on GG.

Of course the Liverpool game should be on the Sunday to help Chelsea have a better chance in the champions league.

Theres always one... Pedant.

No pedantry involved at all, I was 100% genuinely agreeing with you.

Chelsea Spurs should be the Saturday game and the Liverpool game should be on the Sunday irrespective of the date.

Other countries clear weeks for their teams to play champs league games, yet we seem to make it harder for ours......

BWFC_Insane wrote:

Gooner Girl wrote:

BWFC_Insane wrote:Spot on GG.

Of course the Liverpool game should be on the Sunday to help Chelsea have a better chance in the champions league.

Theres always one... Pedant.

No pedantry involved at all, I was 100% genuinely agreeing with you.

Chelsea Spurs should be the Saturday game and the Liverpool game should be on the Sunday irrespective of the date.

Other countries clear weeks for their teams to play champs league games, yet we seem to make it harder for ours......

Frankly, i don't give a monkeys about how well Chelsea do in the champions league (i'd rather they lost then won, if i'm honest) but if it was Arsenal (sob) who were in Chelseas position i'd be a bit hacked off that Liverpool could choose which day they they wanted to play but my team couldn't. (you can bet your bottom dollar if it was us, Wenger would have a little moan )

Gooner Girl wrote:

BWFC_Insane wrote:

Gooner Girl wrote:

BWFC_Insane wrote:Spot on GG.

Of course the Liverpool game should be on the Sunday to help Chelsea have a better chance in the champions league.

Theres always one... Pedant.

No pedantry involved at all, I was 100% genuinely agreeing with you.

Chelsea Spurs should be the Saturday game and the Liverpool game should be on the Sunday irrespective of the date.

Other countries clear weeks for their teams to play champs league games, yet we seem to make it harder for ours......

Frankly, i don't give a monkeys about how well Chelsea do in the champions league (i'd rather they lost then won, if i'm honest) but if it was Arsenal (sob) who were in Chelseas position i'd be a bit hacked off that Liverpool could choose which day they they wanted to play but my team couldn't. (you can bet your bottom dollar if it was us, Wenger would have a little moan )

Agreed, I don't care about Chelsea, but its not good for English football that we make it as hard as possible sometimes for our teams whoever the are. There is only so far you can go, but Liverpool need to realise that playing a game would be a more fitting tribute than refusing point blank, leaving Chelsea 2 days rest before a huge champions league semi final.

If the roles were reversed and it was Liverpool that had only 2 days rest between 2 semi finals, you can be sure that the anniversary of the date where they had to play 2 semis in 3 days would be a day of mourning across the city!

They're just a bunch of self-pitying tossers. The rest of the world dusts itself down and gets on with it. I'd disqualify them for failing to complete the fixture.

Bruce Rioja wrote:They're just a bunch of self-pitying tossers. The rest of the world dusts itself down and gets on with it. I'd disqualify them for failing to complete the fixture.

No, don't hold back Bruce, tell us what you really think!

Gooner Girl wrote:

Bruce Rioja wrote:They're just a bunch of self-pitying tossers. The rest of the world dusts itself down and gets on with it. I'd disqualify them for failing to complete the fixture.

No, don't hold back Bruce, tell us what you really think!

Oh well, in that case.............

Bruce Rioja wrote:They're just a bunch of self-pitying tossers. The rest of the world dusts itself down and gets on with it. I'd disqualify them for failing to complete the fixture.

Wuss.

They're at it again. The Titanic - built in Belfast, set off from Southampton, sunk off of the coast of Canada. There's a whole piece on Northwest Tonight about Scousers mourning its loss and its links with Liverpool simply because it had Liverpool painted on it. The bint on the tele has just claimed, and get this, Liverpool to be its 'spiritual home'. It was a pile of fecking tin, Love, a pile of tin that never went anywhere near the fecking Mersey!!!! Do they want to move any matches for that one too? Astley Bridge has more links with the bloddy thing than Liverpool does.

Bruce Rioja wrote:They're at it again. The Titanic - built in Belfast, set off from Southampton, sunk off of the coast of Canada. There's a whole piece on Northwest Tonight about Scousers mourning its loss and its links with Liverpool simply because it had Liverpool painted on it. The bint on the tele has just claimed, and get this, Liverpool to be its 'spiritual home'. It was a pile of fecking tin, Love, a pile of tin that never went anywhere near the fecking Mersey!!!! Do they want to move any matches for that one too? Astley Bridge has more links with the bloddy thing than Liverpool does.

If you insist on selecting 2 of your ship's captains from Astley Bridge you do get what you deserve, tbh.

Not exactly "the sea is in his blood" stuff.

Anyway, I have a bunch of flowers to leave in Liverpool, so I'll be off for a couple of hours.

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jaffka wrote:this post is constantly showing in red but no one has added anything to it after Bobo, apart from me now of course

Ahh. Good man. Thowt it were summat I'd done.

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Having heard the clip I just don't see how anyone can get their knickers in a twist over mostly a light hearted podcast. Even taken out of context its not offensive imv. I think most would agree with him but are afraid to say anything against the Scouse self pitying mob.

I'm in agreement with the opposite of whatever Alan Davies said.

Ever.

The know nowt.

BWFC_Insane wrote:

Gooner Girl wrote:

BWFC_Insane wrote:Spot on GG.

Of course the Liverpool game should be on the Sunday to help Chelsea have a better chance in the champions league.

Theres always one... Pedant.

No pedantry involved at all, I was 100% genuinely agreeing with you.

Chelsea Spurs should be the Saturday game and the Liverpool game should be on the Sunday irrespective of the date.

Other countries clear weeks for their teams to play champs league games, yet we seem to make it harder for ours......

Absoltue horseshit. How does Chelsea doing well affect other teams? Oh yes, that's right, they get more money with which to further subjugate the lesser clubs.

Will Bolton ever see a CL place? Highly, nay certainly, not, so wtf difference does Chelsea doing well make? Would you be proud if they won the CL? I can't comment becasue I'm not English, but I can assure you if the Tims or huns won it (or the UEFA cup) I would NOT be proud (though any other team I would almost certainly be pleased for them), so gtf with the 'help them' argument.

fatshaft wrote:

BWFC_Insane wrote:

Gooner Girl wrote:

BWFC_Insane wrote:Spot on GG.

Of course the Liverpool game should be on the Sunday to help Chelsea have a better chance in the champions league.

Theres always one... Pedant.

No pedantry involved at all, I was 100% genuinely agreeing with you.

Chelsea Spurs should be the Saturday game and the Liverpool game should be on the Sunday irrespective of the date.

Other countries clear weeks for their teams to play champs league games, yet we seem to make it harder for ours......

Absoltue horseshit. How does Chelsea doing well affect other teams? Oh yes, that's right, they get more money with which to further subjugate the lesser clubs.

Will Bolton ever see a CL place? Highly, nay certainly, not, so wtf difference does Chelsea doing well make? Would you be proud if they won the CL? I can't comment becasue I'm not English, but I can assure you if the Tims or huns won it (or the UEFA cup) I would NOT be proud (though any other team I would almost certainly be pleased for them), so gtf with the 'help them' argument.

Chelsea progressing helps our UEFA coefficient which maintains the number of places in Europe we get (champions league and UEFA cup) now yes whether Chelsea proceed or not is not going to make a major difference to that....

And yes I couldn't care less how well Chelsea do.

But this is not about Bolton, or about being a fan. Its about the football authorities fecking up a clubs chance in Europe because they are absolutely clueless and because Liverpool refuse to play on a certain date.

In Portugal they've been known to cancel league games for their champions league teams in that week.

Our FA seem incapable of even coming up with a half satisfactory schedule to let Chelsea compete.

I don't care specifically about Chelsea, but were it us in any competition I would. And if the FA won't help Chelsea at all, then you can imagine what they'd do with us.

I mean not only do they have to play on the Sunday but the game is scheduled for 6 fecking PM. 6PM on a Sunday.

Had we beaten Spurs then we'd be heading down to Wembley for a Sunday evening game? What sort of utter shite is that?

Not only will they make Chelsea play Sunday Wednesday because of their incompetence and Liverpool's desire to mourn something ad infinitum, they'll also put the fixture as late as damn possible. Cos that makes sense!!!!!!!!!