Tonight's Football

[BWFC_Insane]

Now most of that, I agree with. There is always a bit more to it than results, when you're working on the inside.

Lee was not purely sacked for abysmal results, he may well had the chaos going on behind the scenes not been present, have had a little more time.

Same with Megson, he probably would have gotten longer if the fans were behind the club at the time.

Its always more complex when you make the decision. However, broadly I think even for a chairman it revolved around past and present performance against targets. Those targets may be different to pure footballing results, but still.....

Out of interest, how many managers have taken a club down, but then gone on to be a success there, Curbishley at Charlton is one I can think of, off the top of my head. Not sure of many others?

[boltonboris]

Out of interest, how many managers have taken a club down, but then gone on to be a success there, Curbishley at Charlton is one I can think of, off the top of my head. Not sure of many others?

And I'm sure you know why that is.. It's as much to do with momentum and attitude around the place than the managers' ability.

[BWFC_Insane]

Out of interest, how many managers have taken a club down, but then gone on to be a success there, Curbishley at Charlton is one I can think of, off the top of my head. Not sure of many others?

And I'm sure you know why that is.. It's as much to do with momentum and attitude around the place than the managers' ability.

Wouldn't disagree. I think its somewhat dependent upon circumstances too. If the expectation is to stay up, rightly or wrongly it creates more negativity than if you were say, Burnley or Blackpool or Hull, where nobody expected you to go up in the first place....

[boltonboris]

Yep.. Totally

[Annoyed Grunt]

Got the Leeds v Everton game on......Leeds one up......but shite game so far.

[Bruce Rioja]

Got the Leeds v Everton game on......Leeds one up......but shite game so far.

Leeds - still dirty bastards even after all these years!

[Annoyed Grunt]

Aye........2 up now. Nicely worked free kick.

[Worthy4England]

Yes we know that but judging on a game to game basis where did you stand with previous managers?

I'm not judging on a game by game basis.

I'd have parted ways with Coyle end of last October based on our performances (collectively, not game by game, anyone can look good/bad in one game - or even in a few games) since the FA Cup Semi. Since then I've seen not one iota of anything to change my opinion.

For the record (and still not on a game by game basis), not once did I want Allardyce to leave.
Lee, looked ok in pre-season, but about 5 games into the real season started to look the wrong pick - left at pretty much the time I would have expected.
Megson - kept us up season 1 the end of which I figured he'd earned the right to take us into the next season, even though I didn't like the football we were playing, second season kept us up fairly comfortably in the end so ok, by about October in season three was looking shakey, went at probably the right time.

Coyle outstayed his sell-by date, still here.

[Annoyed Grunt]

The United v Spurs game is decent.

[jaffka]

The sour faced red nose c**t in charge of those who shall not be named is moaning about time keeping.

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[Annoyed Grunt]

West Ham already 1 up, away at QPR.

[Annoyed Grunt]

Now 2-0.

[Gary the Enfield]

Now 2-0.

Had to switch 5 live off. Feeling jealous of West Ham is not conducive to my mood for the week.

Glass of wine then bed.

[bobo the clown]

Now 2-0.

Had to switch 5 live off. Feeling jealous of West Ham is not conducive to my mood for the week.

Glass of wine then bed.

Claret I guess !! If you're feeling blue.

[BWFC_Insane]

Jussi's performance described as 'outstanding'.

Surprise, surprise his class has resurfaced under a proper manager and coaching staff.

More concrete evidence of how badly managed and coached we are.

Getting rid of Fred Barber for the joker we have now is simply scandalous.

Getting angry now.....

[thebish]

oh FFS - give it a rest already!!!

[BWFC_Insane]

oh FFS - give it a rest already!!!

I'll say what I want.

[thebish]

oh FFS - give it a rest already!!!

I'll say what I want.

so ner!

[Gary the Enfield]

Now 2-0.

Had to switch 5 live off. Feeling jealous of West Ham is not conducive to my mood for the week.

Glass of wine then bed.

Claret I guess !! If you're feeling blue.

I see what you did there. Bravo.

[boltonboris]

He was lucky with that cross he missed. He didn't miss the defenders forehead though!! Bosh!

The reason Jussi looks better? The defence in front of him. Nowt else.