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no!

Me neither......

Its still going on!

Seems to suggest there was a cover up of sorts, in the Orwellian sense of that phrase...

No, am I feck as like. However, there's a 'best bits' of Buzzcocks about to start on BBC2, so I'm having that on!

Not if there were to be no more programmes ... ever.

Was actually quite a good program and damn easy to see why the families fought so long and so hard against the terrible injustices they faced for so long.

R.I.P the 96

bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:Seems to suggest there was a cover up of sorts, in the Orwellian sense of that phrase...

What is the Orwellian sense of that phrase and how did the programme suggest it applies to this case?

Its worth a watch on Iplayer. It may say nothing new, but then, once again (and with added cctv/tv footage) it blows out of the water the theories that 1) It was the fans fault 2) Nobody could see what was happening and that nothing could be done.

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:

bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:Seems to suggest there was a cover up of sorts, in the Orwellian sense of that phrase...

What is the Orwellian sense of that phrase and how did the programme suggest it applies to this case?

Google is your friend

One example might be the agents of the Ministry of Truth (Senior police) changing / deleting information supplied by police officers and then presenting and one might argue believing, or appearing to believe the new information as the truth, and through use of propaganda and newspeak allowing the general populace to also believe in this false truth...would you not agree?

Did Panorama really do another documentary on Hillsborough? What next an incisive look into the Suez Crisis, a re-examination of the Jack the Ripper case, a penetrating insight into the Neandethal Cro Magnon clash.
When did Panorama leave behind its current affairs mantle? It'll be doing Jane Austen costume dramas next. Feckin BBC. Panorama used to, rightly, be a flagship programme, cutting edge.

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Did Panorama really do another documentary on Hillsborough? What next an incisive look into the Suez Crisis, a re-examination of the Jack the Ripper case, a penetrating insight into the Neandethal Cro Magnon clash.
When did Panorama leave behind its current affairs mantle? It'll be doing Jane Austen costume dramas next. Feckin BBC. Panorama used to, rightly, be a flagship programme, cutting edge.

Defo worth a watch on iplayer Spotty. Some new evidence on there and support for witnesses who were discredited during the original Taylor report, when TV & CCTV footage that was available at the time showed they were telling the truth.

Heart breaking seeing CCTV footage of ordinary fans going into a game, unaware it was the last thing they would do.

fecking watch panorama ?

after 19th September 2006 ?

youre all warped in the thinkmeat

a1 wrote:fecking watch panorama ?

after 19th September 2006 ?

youre all warped in the thinkmeat

the big sam episode.

mrkint wrote:the big sam episode.

Oh yeah......

mrkint wrote:the big sam episode.

I'd guessed that, but being 'warped in thinkmeat'?

bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:

bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:Seems to suggest there was a cover up of sorts, in the Orwellian sense of that phrase...

What is the Orwellian sense of that phrase and how did the programme suggest it applies to this case?

Google is your friend

One example might be the agents of the Ministry of Truth (Senior police) changing / deleting information supplied by police officers and then presenting and one might argue believing, or appearing to believe the new information as the truth, and through use of propaganda and newspeak allowing the general populace to also believe in this false truth...would you not agree?

When different groups involved in an event have a different perspective on an event that they both express, that is hardly Ministry of Truth stuff. Get a grip. It's still unclear to me what the matters of substance are that we know now but didn't by the time of the Taylor report.

Doesn't the fact that policing of football and ground safety standard both underwent a revolution following Hillsborough demonstrate that a huge failure in both of these respects was known to be seriously to blame and in need of correction?

Bruce Rioja wrote:

mrkint wrote:the big sam episode.

I'd guessed that, but being 'warped in thinkmeat'?

That's something only a1 can explain.